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  • From: "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <supercanadian AT>
  • To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] cc licenses and youtube
  • Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:25:05 -0800


Here's something relevant...

"The offense we committed was creating a small tool that lets people
download YouTube videos to their hard drives. We referenced the tool
in a recent post that walked people through the process of moving
YouTube Videos to their iPod.

We created the tool only after a careful review of YouTube's Terms of
Use, which state "If you download or print a copy of the Content for
personal use, you must retain all copyright and other proprietary
notices contained therein." The letter, however, states "The YouTube's
Terms of Use also allows users to access videos only through the
functionality of the YouTube website via streaming on the Web, and it
disallows the functionality of downloading videos." Not only am I
unable to find that language in YouTube's Terms of Use, it directly
conflicts with the language I did find and quoted above."

So... that would imply that mean YouTube is applying a TPM wouldn't it?!

See ya

On 10/5/06, Mia Garlick < mia AT> wrote:
hey alek,

obviously if a cc licensor posts to youtube there is no issue. it's
only if a licensee posts that we need to think about this.  i checked
with mike and his response was that YouTube are not applying a TPM.
they are simply making it difficult to download but not impossible
and there's no real restriction on being able to do so or your usage
after that...

On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:52 AM, Alek Tarkowski wrote:

> Dear all,
> I've just came upon a case that's applicable to our discussion on
> licenses and TPMs / DRMs. I'm wondering, is it a breach of the
> license to post a CC-licensed work solely on YouTube? It's a site
> that, after all, doesn't allow copying of files (though it can be
> done... and quite easily at that). I might be missing something and
> the obvious answer is "no, it's not!", but otherwise this is an
> issue, as sites like YouTube are such a popular way of spreading
> content around.
> best,
> alek tarkowski
> --
> koordynator / Public Lead
> Creative Commons Polska / Poland
> (+48) 889 660 444
> skype:alektarkowski
> <alek.tarkowski.vcf>

    Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.

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  • Re: [cc-licenses] cc licenses and youtube, Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 11/15/2006

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