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  • From: "Douglas Pollard" <Dougpol1 AT adelphia.net>
  • To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND
  • Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:36:39 -0400

I am fairly new to cc and I am making some videos of sailing trips to the Caribbean. I would not use anything with so complicated as what you are proposing. There are just to many things to conceder I would say why bother just use a regular copyright if you need to keep so much control. It would take a law degree to know if I am infringing on some right.
Doug
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Quoroll" <tjq21 AT cam.ac.uk>
To: "'Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts'" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND


>In the meant time, I find that CC-BY-NC-ND is such an abomination,
that I do not feel bound by it. I shall follow the freedoms. To me,
CC-BY-NC-ND is CC-BY-NC.

Lol fine, you make a derivative of my CC-BY-NC-ND work, I'll sue you, and we'll let the court decide ;)

As I understand it choice lies at the heart of the creative commons concept. Your proposition is interesting but IMHO to limit the choice available to users would surely only push people away from CC licences and towards "all rights reserved", which can only be a bad thing.

Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: cc-licenses-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-licenses-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ualabio?
Sent: 24 April 2006 23:11
To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org; Cory Doctorow
Subject: [cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND


¡Hello!

¿How Fare You?

Awhile ago, I did took an impromptu poll and determined that most
people hate CC-BY-NC-ND as being antithetical to the purpose as a
creative commons (one cannot build on them). We should remove CC-BY-
NC-ND from future versions of the licenses and reduce the scope of CC-
BY-ND to commercial works.

We should create all licenses along these lines:

0. - the freedom to run the work for any purpose (called "freedom
0"), at least noncommercially
1. - the freedom to study and modify the program ("freedom 1"), at
least noncommercially
2. - the freedom to copy the work so you can help your neighbor
("freedom 2"), at least noncommercially
3. - the freedom to improve the work, and release your improvements
to the public, so that the whole community benefits ("freedom 3"), at
least noncommercially

In the meant time, I find that CC-BY-NC-ND is such an abomination,
that I do not feel bound by it. I shall follow the freedoms. To me,
CC-BY-NC-ND is CC-BY-NC. CC-BY-ND does not apply to noncommercial
works. I shall write all of the missing chapter I want for CC-BY-NC-
ND and CC-BY-ND and release them noncommercially. I shall encourage
others to do likewise.

CC-BY-NC-ND and CC-BY-ND applied to noncommercial works is
incompatible with the concept of a creative commons because one
cannot build on them.

¡Thanks!

¡Pax!

¡Health!

¡Bye!



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