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  • From: "Tom Quoroll" <tjq21 AT cam.ac.uk>
  • To: "'Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts'" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] [Cc-icommons] use of CC Deed icons in copyrightstatements
  • Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:16:10 -0000

I think the problem might well be that in English law a deed isn't usually
considered a deed (that is a document that is legally enforceable in the
absence of consideration (meaning something in exchange for the promise))
unless you explicitly call it such.

Most people would appreciate that a deed is a legal document wouldn't they?

Tom.

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hi alek et al.,

while this seems reasonable in terms of being more economic, i'm not sure it
does help in understanding what this cryptic acronym should stand for. maybe
the full wording doesn't help either :-S

i've got also a similar consideration that i wanted to raise for quite some
time now: shouldn't we find a plain language word for "deed"? for most of
the world having no knowledge of legal terminology this provides no clue as
to what the document behind this term is. to make even more complicated than
just being the matter of translating this adequately into its local language
equivalent, it's also part of the deed page graphics. what do others think?
what would be a good synonym in english for "deed"?

tom

Alek Tarkowski wrote:
> Hi all,
> (sorry for crossposting, seemed a good subject for both lists)
>
> I've heard recently several comments regarding what a nuisance it is
> in
> some situations to provide the necessary licensing information - for
> instance a newspaper printing a CC licensed story often does not have
> the space to provide the name of the license together with its URL.
>
> So I've been thinking about possible solutions and I remember reading
> on
> the cc-licenses list that an abbreviation might be acceptable: for
> instance CC BY-NC-SA 2.5. That does save space, especially in languages
> like mine, where words are long.
>
> But a friend of mine has suggested the use of the four deed icons
> instead of words - the way MozCC does that for webpages.
>
> So I would like to know what you think about this. And I know this
> would
> require a change in the license wording. But are there, for instance,
> any legal hooks to this - difficulties caused by the fact that these are
> visual elements?
>
> Or maybe this can be done already with the current licenses?
>
> Best,
>
> Alek Tarkowski
>
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