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Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines
- From: Jonathon Blake <jonathon.blake AT gmail.com>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines
- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:52:07 +0000
Mia wrote:
NonCommercialGuidelines.pdf attached.
Question:
What licence is that document distributed under?
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>(http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/NonCommercial_use_cases)
That is a useful page
One suggestion. Replace "yes" with "acceptable", and "no" with "prohibited".
[I _think_ that s the right exchange to make. If it isn't, then the
change should have been done yesterday.]
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Now for my comments:
i(C) has a typo (US1). [The "1" should be a superscript.]
Is there a discussion somewhere on why "religious organizations" would
not qualify s legitimate NC users?
Somewhere in that document should be a mention of when it is
acceptable for a business entity to use an NC work.
Two examples from the wiki demonstrate why I think that should be included:
* Company Y makes 200 paper copies of a by-nc 2.0 programming
language manual and distributes it to all engineers in the company.
[no? Is this distribution?]
* Company Y keeps one copy of a by-nc 2.0 programming language
manual in its company library. Engineers can use the manual for
reference. [yes? Is this distribution?]
I suspect that a licence that out-right prohibits organizations other
than non-profits from using covered material, will be ruled invalid.
Under the current interpretation, any government usage of material
with a NC licence is prohibited.
Likewise, a corporation sole is prohibited from using the material. [
They have one or two alternatives to 501 3 (c) registration with the
IRS. (And yes, I know that the number of entities that incorporated as
corporation sole is minuscule. It is legitimately used by religious
organizations, and government agencies.)]
I think that covers the range of potential users.
> However, we have attempted to craft these guidelines to resolve some of the
> more common and pressing questions about what is and what is not a
> noncommercial use in the CC world.
E. (1) (b) (iii)
The escape clause here would permit an organization to "sell" the NC
material, by offering it as a premium for contributing a certain
amount. The question is "at what point does offering a premium
constitute selling?"
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Something else not addressed is when a commercial entity creates, and
then distributes material that has an NC licence.
One entity that does so, currently tells it clients --- which are
commercial ventures --- that as long as the client doesn't directly
compete with them, they don't care how the clients distribute the
material.
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I distribute most of my material under a NC licence. More
specifically, I try to use a licence that complies with Matthew 10:8.
Between the E. (1) (b) (iii) exemption for selling material, and the
proposal that religious organization be classified as something other
than "legitimate NC users", I may have lost any reason to use any CC
licence.
xan
jonathon
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[cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines,
Mia Garlick, 01/10/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines, drew Roberts, 01/10/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines, Jonathon Blake, 01/11/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines, Rob Myers, 01/13/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines,
Stefan Tiedje, 01/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Discussion Draft - NonCommercial Guidelines, drew Roberts, 01/29/2006
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