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  • From: email AT greglondon.com
  • To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Cc: "cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: new license request CC-FA
  • Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:30:50 -0500 (EST)


Rob Myers said:
> On Sunday, March 21, 2004, at 10:54PM,
> <email AT greglondon.com> wrote:
> It's not commons/open/free/gift (COG? FOG?), but it
> does address the changing relationship between producers
> and consumers of cultural content in a clear, robust and
> positive way. Surely that's a good thing?

I have a problem with a website called
Creative Commons that cloaks itself in
"Open" and "Public" and "Free" jargon,
yet offers CC-FA style licenses, without
separating them from the Open, Public, and
Free areas.

Creative Commons should be split into two
websites. Creative Commons would offer
CC-ShareAlike and CC-PublicDomain.

A new website called Creative Licensing
could take over all other CC licenses and
would drop any reference to Open, Free,
and Public. copyleft and open source and
Public domain references would be
non-existent on CreativeLicensing.

CreativeLicensing would cloak itself in
more appropriate terms like "advertising"
and "marketing" and "vanity publishing".
And it would offer all other CC licenses,
such as NonCommercial, NoDerivs, EduOnly,

If someone comes here and says

"I'm looking for a license to give away
my document (song, photo, whatever)
to the world, but I want to be able
to charge people if they use it
commercially or change it. And I'd like
to make sure that people can't present
their version as better than my original.
And I don't want anyone to use it for
anything other than educational purposes."

Don't you consider that "bad" in the sense
of they think they're "giving" anything to
the world when they really want All Rights
Reserved?

A Public Commons license would be CC-PD.
A "Gift" license would be CC-SA.
These licenses are designed with the interests
of teh community first and the author second.
An author has to be willing ot make a real
contribution, a real gift, to use these licenses.

all other licenses are designed with the
interests of the Author first and the
community second and have nothing to do
with a "commons".











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