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[Pranesh Prakash <pranesh AT cis-india.org>]

Dear Shrenik,
I'm sorry to jump in so late, but just wanted to note that clause 2(a) 
of the PDF you've attached notes that this is a CC BY-NC-SA 
(attribution+noncommercial+share alike) licence + exclusive commercial 
rights to InOpen Technologies Pvt. Ltd.

I hope you heard back the same from the Profs too.

Cheers,
Pranesh

Shrenik Bhura <shrenik.bhura AT intelliant.net> [2017-06-21 01:08:52 +0530]:
> I now understand the implications of Plus and as the license agreement 
> states certain additional terms for commercial use it is best to have it 
> clarified from the licensor themselves.
>
> The signatories in this case are Prof Sridhar Iyer and Prof Shishir 
> Kumar Jha of IITB. Am directly reaching out to them.
>
> Herein is attached a copy of the CC+ agreement for sake of completeness 
> of this discussion.
>
> Thanks,
> Shrenik
>
>
> On 14-06-2017 23:50, Tito Dutta wrote:
> > Hi,
> > CCPlus is to have a Creative Commons license + some other agreement 
> > which provides more Permissions 
> > (https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CCPlus)
> > We need to know the exact CC license for this, such as CC SA ND NC, CC 
> > SA NC, and additional license details, if any.
> >
> >     and distribute it at cost i.e. sans any profits as long as I keep the
> >
> > In addition, the license is under "non-commercial".
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Tito Dutta
> > tito AT cis-india.org <mailto:tito AT cis-india.org>
> > Program Associate, CIS-A2K
> > +91 9591295619
> >
> > On 14 June 2017 at 23:41, Shrenik Bhura <shrenik.bhura AT intelliant.net 
> > <mailto:shrenik.bhura AT intelliant.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Thanks for your responses.
> >
> >     What I missed to mention in my query earlier was that they have 
> > specified
> >     the license type inside the books. It is a /*CC Plus (Creative 
> > License) ,
> >     Attribution-Non Commercial-Share Alike*/. For example, it is 
> > mentioned on
> >     page 2 of book 8 and towards the end of the book in the other books.
> >
> >     I have read through the terms but yet have this query and will be 
> > grateful
> >     if you can now answer this with the above clarity -
> >
> >     Am I free to adapt this book in multiple Indian languages and in 
> > animated
> >     format and distribute it at cost i.e. sans any profits as long as 
> > I keep
> >     the attribution to the original authors intact?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Shrenik
> >
> >     On 14-06-2017 21:28, Yohann Thomas wrote:
> > >     Hi there
> > >
> > >     This is Yohann Thomas from Wikimedia India.
> > >     I have seen many discussions on similar topics on other mailing 
> > > lists.
> > >     & Here I agree with Savithri....
> > >
> > >     When you translate a book, it comes under the term - "adaptation".
> > >
> > >     Since there is no such mention of it in the license,  The books 
> > > can't be
> > >     translated.
> > >
> > >     I think before any organization releases books/images or any 
> > > multimedia
> > >     under CC license, they should try to reach out to stakeholders of CC
> > >     India so that they can be guided on which type of license to release
> > >     under so that their objectives are met..
> > >
> > >     Thanks
> > >     Yohann Thomas
> > >     Wikimedia India
> > >
> > >
> > >     On 14 Jun 2017 9:05 p.m., "Tito Dutta" <tito AT cis-india.org
> > >     <mailto:tito AT cis-india.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > >         Savithri Singh is right.
> > >         "download and use the books below, for non-commercial 
> > > purposes" --
> > >         makes it CC NC (creative commons non commercial)
> > >
> > >             For example, if I were to take these books at the 
> > > following link
> > >             - http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sri/ssrvm/
> > >             <http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/%7Esri/ssrvm/>, released under the
> > >             Creative Commons license, modify and/or translate them to 
> > > all
> > >             other Indian languages and distribute it for free then 
> > > would it
> > >             in anyway violate any copyright
> > >
> > >         -- You can not do it. The current license does not clarify 
> > > it. Other
> > >         than "derivative works" there is no information "share alike".
> > >
> > >         I would suggest the same thing what Savithri Singh has 
> > > suggested:
> > >         please contact them about their license. The best free 
> > > license is of
> > >         course CC 4.0 SA (or my favorite CC 0).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         Thanks and regards,
> > >         Tito Dutta
> > >         tito AT cis-india.org <mailto:tito AT cis-india.org>
> > >         Program Associate, CIS-A2K
> > >         +91 9591295619
> > >
> > >         On 14 June 2017 at 20:46, Savithri Singh 
> > > <singh.savithri AT gmail.com
> > >         <mailto:singh.savithri AT gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >             Dear Shrenik,
> > >
> > >             My understanding of what it says on the website.
> > >
> > >             If you look carefully while they have said that the books 
> > > are
> > >             released under CC license they have not specified the 
> > > license
> > >             (for different licenses pl
> > >             seehttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/
> > >             <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/> ).
> > >
> > >             The site also writes that "You are free to download and 
> > > use the
> > >             books below, for non-commercial purposes." This implies 
> > > that you
> > >             are free to download, print and distribute.  While I 
> > > believe they
> > >             would not be averse to translation and distribution, 
> > > since it
> > >             does not mention anywhere about
> > >             adaptation/modification/translation, it is best to enquire.
> > >
> > >             Hope this helps.  I have copied the mail to others, who 
> > > may like
> > >             to reply/comment.
> > >
> > >             Savithri
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Shrenik Bhura
> > >             <shrenik.bhura AT intelliant.net
> > >             <mailto:shrenik.bhura AT intelliant.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >                 Dear Ms. Singh,
> > >
> > >                 This is to seek some clarity on the applicability of 
> > > the CC
> > >                 license in India.
> > >
> > >                 For example, if I were to take these books at the 
> > > following
> > >                 link - http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sri/ssrvm/
> > >                 <http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/%7Esri/ssrvm/>, released 
> > > under the
> > >                 Creative Commons license, modify and/or translate 
> > > them to all
> > >                 other Indian languages and distribute it for free 
> > > then would
> > >                 it in anyway violate any copyrights?
> > >
> > >                 In case you are unable to answer this,  request you 
> > > to kindly
> > >                 guide me to someone who may be able to help in this 
> > > regards.
> > >
> > >                 Thanks & best regards,
> > >                 Shrenik
> > >
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Pranesh Prakash
Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society
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