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["Kenneth Yip" <kyip AT stanfordalumni.org>]

Dear Yahong and Alice,

Thanks for the great effort.  Look forward to reading the draft!

Kenneth

On Nov 26, 2007 12:46 PM, Li Yahong <yali AT hku.hk > wrote:

A few more words on the legal process... Our two student RAs, Rob and Jerry, had worked extremely hard in the past few months.  They identified all important issues and differences in concepts by carefully studying and comparing the standard CC licence, HK copyright law, and licences of several jurisdictions such as UK, Australia, US and mainland China.  These issues and concepts in turn were thoroughly discussed and debated during our team meeting last week.  we are now working on finalizing the draft.  Hopefully we will make it available by the end of the year for public comment after we get CC international's comments.  Alice and I are working closely on making sure that the licence is in compliance with HK copyright law and the drafting process is right on track. 

 

Thanks for your patience!

 

Best,

 

Yahong

on behalf of legal team

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Rebecca MacKinnon

To: Charles Mok

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:58 AM

Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Some photos of today's workshop

Hi everybody!! I just want to echo everybody's sentiments, it was a great start and I hope we can do a lot more events. I agree about the need for community outreach in Cantonese. Daisy and Jack have some great ideas about the need to create localized materials. Perhaps we can form a team to start drafting these things on the wiki? Perhaps we can also use the wiki to start putting together ideas for more outreach activities - where they should be held, with whom, how to structure them, etc.

Charles is also right to raise his concern about the sequence of "product development" and "marketing." Right now, our legal team is finalizing a draft of the licenses. As soon as it is ready they will share it with the community for comment and discussion. As most of  you will find unsurprising, Hong Kong copyright law is especially problematic (much more so than British law) so there are definitely some questions that will need to be sorted out before the licenses can be finalized. Anyway, hopefully there will be a draft for community review by the end of the year and we will be able to have a discussion about what the hurdles might be before everything can be finished. But I'm optimistic that we ought to be able to launch by next summer if all goes well.

Once the licenses have been localized under Hong Kong law and once both the Hong Kong community AND Creative Commons International have given their blessing and approval to the licenses, we will be able to create an official Creative Commons Hong Kong website and a more official CC-HK organization. We will need to start thinking about whether we need to do fundraising to support various promotional activities, what we want to do for the launch event, and what kinds of activities we should organize before, during, and after the launch event.

Lots to do, but all very exciting. I think the event on Saturday proved just how much good we can do here in Hong Kong to promote free culture.

Cheers,
Rebecca

On Nov 26, 2007 10:55 AM, Charles Mok <charlespmok AT gmail.com> wrote:

Besides promotion, i really want to know the legal progress, which I think is more important at this point than doing "marketing".  We need to do the "product development" first or else we build up too much anticipation with nothing ready to sell?

Charles

On Nov 26, 2007 10:50 AM, Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com> wrote:

What about having a localized Q&A flier/webpage using Cantonese characters to explain what is CC? Has someone already done this? I don't know how to type Cantonese characters though, but thought that should help to achieve our goal.

Jack

On Nov 26, 2007 9:39 AM, Daisy Maris Fung <daisy.fung AT gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben and all,

1. Start from school, network like hkedcity.net
2. Please translate some proper Chinese material (Don't use the "Taiwan feel" text from CC Taiwan, but modify them in HK/Cantonese feel/style.  I strongly request materials that regular people/layman like me can understand thoroughly.
3. Form a list of people who is using CC now in HK.  There are some HK bloggers in blogspot or MySinaBlog using CC but no "official channel" contact/recognize them.
4. I know that Cheung Wai Lun (General Manager of Content Sales in New Media Group)  started a group in iProA about Digital Content and New Media, just talk to these kind of people and form a full picture of how to apply CC from a commercial or non-commercial prospective.

Daisy

On Nov 25, 2007 8:29 PM, Ben <chpapa AT gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Daisy and all,

Thanks for the blog! That's true... we should look for more
opportunities to organize similar events to help promote CC in this
details, to a wider community.

Any thought? :-)

Ben

On Nov 25, 2007 10:30 AM, Daisy Maris Fung <daisy.fung AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> I wrote the event on my blog.
> http://daisy.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/creative-commons-workshop-and-blog-to-blook/
> And please kindly consider to conduct a Cantonese workshop :)
>
> Daisy
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2007 2:48 AM, Ben < chpapa AT gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks for the talk given by Rebecca, Edmon and Jack Qiu in today
> > workshop and the remark by Chan-yau too :-). I myself really like the
> > CD played by Jack Qiu~ HEEE....
> >
> > I think this workshop is really great in the sense that many
> > participants do not know / know very little about CC before they came,
> > which means that we've got more people learn about it :-) , nice to
> > meet all of you today, hope that we can have more chance to talk with
> > each others later :-) (I was talking with some students who told me
> > after the workshop they are interested in participating and help!
> > That's exciting!)
> >
> > I've got some photos here:
> http://picasaweb.google.com.tw/chpapa/CCWorkshop
> >
> > Since I dun really take great photo, and I've got the "best" Camera in
> > producing noise on the image from Olympus -_-, you may find these
> > photos better:
> > http://flickr.com/photos/laihiu/sets/72157603282096899/detail/
> >
> > These great photos were taken by another "Fans of CC" today :-)
> >
> > One student from the Chinese University had helped video recorded
> > today's workshop, I will upload and share the video on the mailing
> > list once it is ready.
> >
> > BTW -- Maybe we should setup a wiki page on cchk.wetpaint.com to host
> > the materials from this workshop including links to presentation /
> > video / photo / blogs... etc.?
> >
> > Bests,
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Mobile: 93816083
> > Email: ben AT bencheng.net
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