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  • From: Patrick Peiffer <peiffer.patrick AT gmail.com>
  • To: Melanie Dulong de Rosnay <melanie.ddr AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: Paul Keller <pk AT kl.nl>, CC Europe <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] License Ouverte
  • Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 15:49:38 +0000

Just as a follow-up, I'm in touch with Etalab to elucidate.
Patrick

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 at 19:25 Melanie Dulong de Rosnay <melanie.ddr AT gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Patrick & al,

2016-01-26 16:51 GMT+01:00 Patrick Peiffer <peiffer.patrick AT gmail.com>:
Dear Melanie & Paul,

I am also interested in more information about the French licence, specifically any impact analysis regarding the choice of the "Licence Ouverte", but have found nothing so far. 

My motivation is that the Luxembourg government is currently building its data portal on a clone of Etalab's data.gouv.fr. (Etalab designed the "Licence Ouverte").

Here are some guidelines developed within LAPSI project you may want to send to Lux officials...

Deliverable of the Lapsi 2.0 European Thematic Network on Public Sector Information CIP-ICT PSP-2012-6 (February 2014): 23 (available at: http://cordis.europa.eu/docs/projects/cnect/1/325171/080/deliverables/001-D52LicensingGuidelinesPOAres2014499090.pdf).


 

What I believe to have understood so far:
- The licence is not based on copyright or database rights but on the the French law governing (some) public institutions (établissements publics to whom article 10 de la loi n°78-753 du 17 juillet 1978 is applicable). Not sure if and how I could understand this scope correctly

Yes, it's a PSI license
 
- This makes me wonder how compatibility with CC 2.0 or even Odbl is achieved. Even more puzzling

indeed. same for the issues you're raising below...
 
, the applicability of the licence is limited to the term of IP rights.
- The institutions in scope of said law are "The Producer" (the licensor) and they guarantee that no 3rd party rights exist in the shared "information".
- The licence only requires the first re-user to comply with its terms, who is not obliged to continue to share under the licence. The licence obligations are thus gone after the first re-use hop.
- The French BNU (national and university library of Strasbourg) is using the licence for its public domain digitised collection: http://www.bnu.fr/collections/la-bibliotheque-numerique/les-images-de-la-bnu-et-la-licence-ouverte
- The licence exists all over the place there is not a single source (even though it originated with Etalab)
- A detail: The french version of the licence references the specific article of the French PSI law, the english translation only refers generically to "French law": http://www.etalab.gouv.fr/en/licence-ouverte-open-licence

Any clarifications welcome!
Patrick


  • Re: [CC-Europe] License Ouverte, Patrick Peiffer, 02/01/2016

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