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  • From: Patrick Peiffer <peiffer.patrick AT gmail.com>
  • To: Gwen Franck <gwen AT creativecommons.org>
  • Cc: "cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] Action appreciated: CC's State of the Commons Report needs a drumbeat
  • Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:04:35 +0100

Hi Gwen,
Just a detail but then please redo the map as well. Ryan says it's intentional that country names do not correspond to actual locations. But the fact that the USA and UK are correct and all others are wrong reflects badly on CC, in the same way that Umlauts are part of correct spelling. I can only speak for myself, but I try hard to promote CC as an entity that is not US-centric. Geography errors and Umlaut ignorance works against that because these two errors are so, sorry to say, comically typical of the US. It's an impression I don't want anyone to have of CC.
Thanks!
Patrick
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On 21 November 2014 at 15:25, Gwen Franck <gwen AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
Hi Maarten and others, 

I will now write to Meryl asking her for the original files so that we can make corrections ourselves, and I will forward as soon as I get them. 
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Maarten Zeinstra <mz AT kl.nl> wrote:
That is not good enough John.

We were mobilised a week ago to promote a report that we had no say in, where we put aside our normal work to rush a translation that was changed last minute and still has disappoint results.

I cannot promote this on creativecommons.nl as long as the published Dutch version on stateof.creativecommons.org has mistakes in them. That reflects badly on me as an affiliate as well as Creative Commons as a professional organisation. You cannot expect to engage our own networks, social media en websites with these results.

Referring to a tweet that I apparently need to retweet is not a sufficient reply to that critique. 

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Maarten
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On 20 Nov 2014, at 22:01 , John Weitzmann <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org> wrote:

I'll make sure these point go on record for next time/simlar cases.

For those that haven't seen the tweet:

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ignasi Labastida i Juan <ilabastida AT ub.edu> wrote:

Hello,

I can add a bit more of disappoinment when I see that the two translations I sent on time, rushing because the short deadline, changing three times the original texts, are not there. The answer "working on putting it into the design, and it will be updated later". I think things can be done better...
Ignasi

El dia 20/11/2014 16:28, "Maarten Zeinstra" <mz AT kl.nl> va escriure:
I have the same sentiment as Alek here. We did a translation within hours of a request but only got to see the infographic today. With the addition that there were some error still in there (incomplete copy/pastes and not mindful of umlauts in the Dutch language). I would just a likely have translated it in the actual Photoshop file itself and send it back to Global and wait for the publication to push on a single day.

Likewise I am not comfortable using our @cc_nl for announcement of something that has not happened yet. That goes against our publication policy.

Maarten 
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On 20 Nov 2014, at 15:12 , Alek Tarkowski <alek AT creativecommons.pl> wrote:

Hi John,

I'm happy to help out a bit on the social media front (though I'll wait for the tweet with the report link :) ). But I must make a comment: if we had the option of participating in deciding the shape of the report; or could insert little nuggets (like most interesting examples from our countries), I'd have greater sense of involvement. translating content and spreading the word are actions quite late along the workflow. 

If the report is something more than the infographic (it's not clear, but seems to be the case), we haven't even seen it before the public launch (which was usually the case in the past).

Maybe in future editions we can collaborate more? 'state of the commons' seems like something particularly suited to be done together by us.

Alek

On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:58, John Weitzmann <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org> wrote:

Hi CC Europeans,

several of you helped out already with translations for the upcoming State of the Commons Report, now it's time to spread the word. Let's produce a bit of a buzz around the net under the hashtag #stateofcc so that the good news be known far and wide. Right now the announcing tweet ...


... has 33 re-tweets. Network theory knows that from about 200 upwards it becomes really interesting. So re-tweet if you can or even embed the tweet in your websites with this:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>We&#39;ll be launching our State of the Commons report tomorrow - our most revealing data yet on the impact of free &amp; open content. Stay tuned!</p>&mdash; Creative Commons (@creativecommons) <a href=""https://twitter.com/creativecommons/status/535221619082670080">November 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src=""//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Have a good rest of the week, yours
John & Gwen
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