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  • From: "Cox, Ingemar" <i.cox AT ucl.ac.uk>
  • To: Paul Keller <pk AT kl.nl>
  • Cc: "Cox, Ingemar" <i.cox AT ucl.ac.uk>, CC Europe <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] implementation of the collecting societies directive
  • Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:54:43 +0000


Paul,

do you know how much influence GESAC has on the national collecting
societies? My concern is that at least in the UK, GESAC may be ignored.
If GESAC's influence is generally weak, then the first strategy is preferred.

Regards,

Ingemar


On 3 Jan 2014, at 08:01, Paul Keller <pk AT kl.nl> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> as mentioned earlier [1] the (almost adapted) EU directive on collective
> rights management contains language that should require all collecting
> societies to allow their members to license their works for non-commercial
> purposes. Once this directive is adopted (which is expected to happen later
> this month) it will need to be implemented in all 28 member states of the
> EU.
>
> Since the directive does not explicitly mentions the creative commons
> licenses (the relevant section reads: 'Rightholders shall have the right to
> grant licences for the non-commercial uses of the rights, categories of
> rights or types of works and other subject matter of their choice.’) it is
> important that the implementation happens in such a way that CS members can
> actually use one of our 3 NC licenses.
>
> There are two strategies that we can employ to achieve this goal. The first
> option is that all jurisdiction teams try to work with their national
> legislators (and possibly the relevant Collecting Societies) to ensure that
> the directive is implemented in such a way that it allows the use of CC
> licenses. This will require some amount of work from all jurisdiction teams
> and an additional coordination effort.
>
> The second strategy would be to to see if we can work with the European
> umbrella organisation of the collecting societies (GESAC) to come up with
> some kind of implementation advice/strategy, that can then be presented to
> their members and the national legislators. This would require more work on
> the Europeana level, but have the advantage that (if we achieve such a
> thing) there is less work on the level of the jurisdiction teams. Also this
> would cover countries where we do not have affiliates and it would likely
> ensure greater harmonisation.
>
> While the directive is not adopted yet, it would be great to have some
> feedback from this list with regards to which of the two strategies has
> your preference. based on that we can decide on a approach that we can then
> implement once the directive has been implemented.
>
> all the best (and happy new year),
> Paul
>
> [1] https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/cc-europe/2013-November/001089.html
>
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