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- From: Ben Crowell <cceducrowell03 AT lightandmatter.com>
- To: cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization
- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:25:55 -0500
I'd like to thank Wouter Vanden Hove for inviting me to join this discussion,
and Dave Wiley for all the hard work he's done on applying free information to
education. I'm a little intimidated to be joining the discussion at this late
date -- I've made an effort to catch up on the discussion, but please let me
know
if my comments betray my ignorance of what's already been said.
I've had some physics textbooks (www.lightandmatter.com) under the GFDL and
OPL licenses
for a while now, and have just recently changed them all over to a CC
license. As I look
at this proposal, naturally I start thinking in terms of my own books. I have
a negative
reaction to the proposal for an educational CC license for several reasons,
but maybe
my reasons wouldn't apply to other people.
--proliferation of licenses--
One thing that worries me is the proliferation of licenses. We already have
GFDL, two
versions of OPL, and 8 versions of CC, for a total 11 licenses. Do we really
need to make
it 12? The proliferation of copyleft licenses has already caused vast
problems in the
world of software. For instance, Mozilla does not yet have full support for
MathML and
SVG (support is incomplete and buggy, and is not included in the default
builds), and one
of the main reasons is incompatibilities between licenses. The world of
copylfted
software is a couple of orders magnitude bigger than the world of copylefted
books, audio, and the trend seems to be that software is increasingly being
released under
only a relatively small number of licenses: GPL, LGPL, and BSD. I have a hard
time
believing that a much larger number of licenses is appropriate for the much
smaller
world of non-software.
I think we should also keep in mind that only a vanishingly small percentage
of the
population has ever even heard of the concept of open content, copylefted
books, etc.
If they happen to hear about the idea, and are interested, why confuse them
with a
patchwork of incompatible licenses?
--balkanization of free information--
The whole idea of free information is to break down barriers, but by creating
a new
license restricted to education, we erect new ones. The excitement of free
information
lies in serendipity -- Linus Torvalds never dreamed that his toy operating
system would
be used for all the things it's being used for now. Do we want to end up with
some
free textbooks that can only be used in a school, not in corporate training?
Some free
music that can only be played in nightclubs, not concert halls? Some free
photos that
can be incorporated into collages, but not used as props in theater sets?
Would the
word "free" even be proper to apply to these works?
--why?--
My biggest question is why this is really necessary. What are the examples of
books,
songs, paintings, and poems whose authors really need to restrict their use to
educational settings? Speaking only for myself, restrictive, non-free licenses
don't excite my imagination the way real free information does.
-
[cc-education] proliferation, balkanization,
Ben Crowell, 08/27/2003
- Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization, David Wiley, 08/28/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
-
[cc-education] proliferation, balkanization,
Ben Crowell, 08/28/2003
- Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization, David Wiley, 08/28/2003
-
Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization,
Zachary Chandler, 08/29/2003
-
Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization,
tom poe, 08/29/2003
-
[cc-education] A radical alternative proposal,
David Wiley, 08/29/2003
- Re: [cc-education] A radical alternative proposal, tom poe, 08/29/2003
-
[cc-education] A radical alternative proposal,
David Wiley, 08/29/2003
-
Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization,
tom poe, 08/29/2003
-
[cc-education] proliferation, balkanization,
Ben Crowell, 08/29/2003
- Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization, David Wiley, 08/29/2003
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