Developer discussion for Creative Commons technology and tools

[Maarten Zeinstra <mz AT kl.nl>]

Hi guys,

I’ve voiced my opinions about Creative Commons development strategies for as 
long as I have been on this list and it seems like CC as an organisation just 
doesn’t learn from it’s past.

A year or more a go the list received a similar mail detailing a new platform 
where teachers would be able to combine material and make kick-ass OER, or so 
was the promise. This product was never launched and the people working on it 
left CC. Similarly I’ve been hearing that you are trying to repurpose the 
Taiwanese LetCC tool. I quick look in the Github repositories shows that your 
last commit on that was in July. Now you are pushing a log-in system and a 
list app while in the meantime you seem to be neglecting your legal tools and 
tools that are in use today. I’ve heard you want to put a search tool more in 
the centre of your business plan, but you are not measuring how much is being 
searched on cc.org. You claim that this is an important part of your user 
engagement at the moment but you have nothing to back that up. This is 
literally a 5 minute job, you only have to fill in the variable. Hit it is 
’s’ for creativecommons.org and ‘query’ for search.creativecommons.org..

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode still gives security 
warnings, while they are accessible they do not give much confidence that CC 
can operate as a technology company.

https://creativecommons.org/ns still does not have any CSS attached to it 
since a cleanup of your server. CCrel is being used throughout the world, 
Europeana being one of its large proponents. Again you are not providing any 
confidence in your technological skill. If you want search you will need to 
have CC-material searchable. CCrel, schema.org or other similar initiatives 
provide that. I see no activity of CC global in that direction.

For me there is a large disconnect to what CC global is trying to achieve and 
what the actual CC community wants/needs. And honestly I’ve been ranting 
about this for years now. You can open almost any Mail thread in this lists 
archive to read my dismay :) and that shouldn’t be funny.

Finally for my feedback, interests should come first contracts should come 
later. You are inviting us to sign a contract but you haven’t even told us 
the app yet. It doesn’t make any sense.

/rant

Best,

Maarten


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> On 05 Dec 2014, at 24:40 , BjornW <burobjorn AT gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Personally, I'd would walk away and not contribute to this. There's plenty 
> of interesting FLOSS projects seeking contributors without 'forcing' me to 
> jump through legal hoops. Also I think that an agreement such as this, is 
> detriment to the Creative Commons cause and 'brand'.
> 
> Just my two euro cents ;)
> 
> grtz
> BjornW
> 
> 
> On 05-12-14 00:19, Matt Lee wrote:
>> The List is a new web app and Android app from Creative Commons. We're
>> developing it in the open, under a free software license. We'd like to
>> get third party contributions, and we have an agreement that we're
>> proposing that'll do that.
>> 
>> Read it here: 
>> https://github.com/creativecommons/list/blob/master/contributing.md
>> and please let us have your feedback either here or via GitHub Issues.
>> 
>> Join us now and share the software!
>> 
>> I'm really excited by this work, and we'd love to have your contributions.
>> 
>> ---
>> Matt Lee
>> Creative Commons
>> Boston, MA, USA
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