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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin (Tarmo Toikkanen)
   2. Re: Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin (BjornW)
   3. Re: Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin (Kent Mewhort)


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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:47:56 +0300
From: Tarmo Toikkanen <tarmo.toikkanen AT iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [cc-devel] Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin
To: Maarten Zeinstra <mz AT kl.nl>
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What's happened so far:

Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make changes to the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account is keyed to his now nonexistent @creativecommons.org mail account. And the current CTO, Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an impasse. I sent email to Dan to see if he can help recover the email confirmation message that would allow someone to edit the plugin, but he hasn't responded - probably busy with many other things.

I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs. This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due personnel changes.

--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo AT iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi


On Wednesday 24. 07 2013 at 13.36, Maarten Zeinstra wrote:

> Hi Tarmo,
>
> How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maarten
> --
> Kennisland | www.kennisland.nl (http://www.kennisland.nl) | t +31205756720 | m +31643053919 | @mzeinstra
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:35 , BjornW <burobjorn AT gmail.com (mailto:burobjorn AT gmail.com)> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
> >
> > grtz
> > BjornW
> >
> > On 06-07-13 18:49, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
> > > Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
> > > here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
> > > The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
> > > will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
> > > But you should be able to give it a go.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tarmo Toikkanen
> > > tarmo AT iki.fi (mailto:tarmo AT iki.fi)
> > > http://tarmo.fi
> > >
> > > On Friday 5. 07 2013 at 22.59, BjornW wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Tarmo,
> > > >
> > > > I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
> > > > instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
> > > > Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
> > > > patches / pull requests?
> > > >
> > > > grtz
> > > > BjornW
> > > >
> > > > On 05-07-13 21:49, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
> > > > > and did not see any mention of this. So here goes:
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
> > > > > wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
> > > > > However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
> > > > > since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
> > > > > behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
> > > > > resuming development of that plugin?
> > > > >
> > > > > What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
> > > > > each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
> > > > > the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
> > > > > real author.
> > > > >
> > > > > The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
> > > > > bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
> > > > >
> > > > > I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
> > > > > bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
> > > > > license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
> > > > > those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
> > > > > post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
> > > > > Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
> > > > > terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tarmo Toikkanen
> > > > > Creative Commons Finland
> > > > > tarmo AT iki.fi <mailto:tarmo AT iki.fi>
> > > > > http://tarmo.fi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > met vriendelijke groet,
> > > > Bjorn Wijers
> > > >
> > > > * b u r o b j o r n .nl *
> > > > digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship
> > > >
> > > > Werkdagen:
> > > > Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
> > > > Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.
> > > >
> > > > Postbus 14145
> > > > 3508 SE Utrecht
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > >
> > > > tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
> > > > http://www.burobjorn.nl
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > met vriendelijke groet,
> > Bjorn Wijers
> >
> > * b u r o b j o r n .nl *
> > digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship
> >
> > Werkdagen:
> > Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
> > Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.
> >
> > Postbus 14145
> > 3508 SE Utrecht
> > The Netherlands
> >
> > tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
> > http://www.burobjorn.nl
> >
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:08:00 +0200
From: BjornW <burobjorn AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cc-devel] Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin
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Hi Tarmo,

Ahum *shame* I totally forgot about the plugin. I'm sorry and will have
a look into it. My apologizes.

grtz
BjornW



On 26-07-13 14:47, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
> What's happened so far:
>
> Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original
> author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make
> changes to the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account
> is keyed to his now nonexistent @creativecommons.org mail account. And
> the current CTO, Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an
> impasse. I sent email to Dan to see if he can help recover the email
> confirmation message that would allow someone to edit the plugin, but
> he hasn't responded - probably busy with many other things.
>
> I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking
> it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the
> official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs.
> This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the
> plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due
> personnel changes.
>
> --
> Tarmo Toikkanen
> tarmo AT iki.fi
> http://tarmo.fi
>
> On Wednesday 24. 07 2013 at 13.36, Maarten Zeinstra wrote:
>
>> Hi Tarmo,
>>
>> How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have
>> specific questions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Maarten
>> --
>> Kennisland | www.kennisland.nl <http://www.kennisland.nl> | t
>> +31205756720 | m +31643053919 | @mzeinstra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:35 , BjornW <burobjorn AT gmail.com
>> <mailto:burobjorn AT gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
>>>
>>> grtz
>>> BjornW
>>>
>>> On 06-07-13 18:49, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
>>>> Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
>>>> here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
>>>> The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
>>>> will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
>>>> But you should be able to give it a go.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tarmo Toikkanen
>>>> tarmo AT iki.fi <mailto:tarmo AT iki.fi>
>>>> http://tarmo.fi
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 5. 07 2013 at 22.59, BjornW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tarmo,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help
>>>>> out. For
>>>>> instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
>>>>> Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
>>>>> patches / pull requests?
>>>>>
>>>>> grtz
>>>>> BjornW
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05-07-13 21:49, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
>>>>>> and did not see any mention of this. So here goes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
>>>>>> wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
>>>>>> However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
>>>>>> since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
>>>>>> behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
>>>>>> resuming development of that plugin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog,
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
>>>>>> the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each
>>>>>> post's
>>>>>> real author.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
>>>>>> bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
>>>>>> bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
>>>>>> license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
>>>>>> those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
>>>>>> post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
>>>>>> Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
>>>>>> terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tarmo Toikkanen
>>>>>> Creative Commons Finland
>>>>>> tarmo AT iki.fi <mailto:tarmo AT iki.fi>
>>>>>> http://tarmo.fi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> cc-devel mailing list
>>>>>> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>>>> Bjorn Wijers
>>>>>
>>>>> * b u r o b j o r n .nl *
>>>>> digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship
>>>>>
>>>>> Werkdagen:
>>>>> Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
>>>>> Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.
>>>>>
>>>>> Postbus 14145
>>>>> 3508 SE Utrecht
>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>
>>>>> tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
>>>>> http://www.burobjorn.nl
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> cc-devel mailing list
>>>>> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>> Bjorn Wijers
>>>
>>> * b u r o b j o r n .nl *
>>> digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship
>>>
>>> Werkdagen:
>>> Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
>>> Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.
>>>
>>> Postbus 14145
>>> 3508 SE Utrecht
>>> The Netherlands
>>>
>>> tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
>>> http://www.burobjorn.nl
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cc-devel mailing list
>>> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel


--

met vriendelijke groet,
Bjorn Wijers

* b u r o b j o r n .nl *
digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship

Werkdagen:
Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.

Postbus 14145
3508 SE Utrecht
The Netherlands

tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
http://www.burobjorn.nl



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:06:53 +0200
From: Kent Mewhort <kent AT openissues.ca>
Subject: Re: [cc-devel] Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin
To: Tarmo Toikkanen <tarmo.toikkanen AT iki.fi>
Cc: "cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org devel" <cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Hi Everyone,

I first want to say "hi" by way of introduction, as I just joined this
list.  I'm the legal lead for CC Canada (but spend most time in software
development as opposed to lawyering).  I also run the licensing
information site www.clipol.org.  Okay, back to the thread...

Tarmo, it looks like there's another WP Plugin called "Creative Commons
Configurator" that is more up-to-date (it has commits in 2013 at any
rate): http://wordpress.org/plugins/creative-commons-configurator-1/.
Maybe it doesn't meet your needs, but I just thought I'd mention it in
case you hadn't seen it.

Also, I implemented a CC Rails gem earlier this week (and it'll be on
Github once I get a moment to write a readme).  It's a basic view helper
that allows one liners such as "license_helper(:by_sa)" or
"license_helper(:by_sa, jurisdiction: :ca, version: '3.0' ) to generate
the license notices.   I mention this gem because it pulls in full I18n
internationalization support for all jurisdictions and languages
available on the License Chooser webpage.  I'd be happy to port these
localizations over to the WP plugin.

Kent

On 13-07-26 02:47 PM, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
> What's happened so far:
>
> Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original
> author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make
> changes to the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account
> is keyed to his now nonexistent @creativecommons.org mail account. And
> the current CTO, Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an
> impasse. I sent email to Dan to see if he can help recover the email
> confirmation message that would allow someone to edit the plugin, but
> he hasn't responded - probably busy with many other things.
>
> I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking
> it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the
> official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs.
> This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the
> plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due
> personnel changes.
>
> --
> Tarmo Toikkanen
> tarmo AT iki.fi
> http://tarmo.fi
>
> On Wednesday 24. 07 2013 at 13.36, Maarten Zeinstra wrote:
>
>> Hi Tarmo,
>>
>> How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have
>> specific questions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Maarten
>> --
>> Kennisland | www.kennisland.nl <http://www.kennisland.nl> | t
>> +31205756720 | m +31643053919 | @mzeinstra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:35 , BjornW <burobjorn AT gmail.com
>> <mailto:burobjorn AT gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
>>>
>>> grtz
>>> BjornW
>>>
>>> On 06-07-13 18:49, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
>>>> Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
>>>> here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
>>>> The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
>>>> will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
>>>> But you should be able to give it a go.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tarmo Toikkanen
>>>> tarmo AT iki.fi <mailto:tarmo AT iki.fi>
>>>> http://tarmo.fi
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 5. 07 2013 at 22.59, BjornW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tarmo,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help
>>>>> out. For
>>>>> instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
>>>>> Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
>>>>> patches / pull requests?
>>>>>
>>>>> grtz
>>>>> BjornW
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05-07-13 21:49, Tarmo Toikkanen wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
>>>>>> and did not see any mention of this. So here goes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
>>>>>> wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
>>>>>> However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
>>>>>> since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
>>>>>> behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
>>>>>> resuming development of that plugin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog,
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
>>>>>> the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each
>>>>>> post's
>>>>>> real author.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
>>>>>> bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
>>>>>> bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
>>>>>> license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
>>>>>> those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
>>>>>> post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
>>>>>> Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
>>>>>> terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tarmo Toikkanen
>>>>>> Creative Commons Finland
>>>>>> tarmo AT iki.fi <mailto:tarmo AT iki.fi>
>>>>>> http://tarmo.fi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> cc-devel mailing list
>>>>>> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>>>> Bjorn Wijers
>>>>>
>>>>> * b u r o b j o r n .nl *
>>>>> digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship
>>>>>
>>>>> Werkdagen:
>>>>> Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
>>>>> Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.
>>>>>
>>>>> Postbus 14145
>>>>> 3508 SE Utrecht
>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>
>>>>> tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
>>>>> http://www.burobjorn.nl
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> cc-devel mailing list
>>>>> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> met vriendelijke groet,
>>> Bjorn Wijers
>>>
>>> * b u r o b j o r n .nl *
>>> digitaal vakmanschap | digital craftsmanship
>>>
>>> Werkdagen:
>>> Van maandag t/m donderdag vanaf 10:00
>>> Vrijdag is voor experimenteren en eigen projecten.
>>>
>>> Postbus 14145
>>> 3508 SE Utrecht
>>> The Netherlands
>>>
>>> tel: +31 6 49 74 78 70
>>> http://www.burobjorn.nl
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cc-devel mailing list
>>> cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel
>
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