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  • From: Nathan Yergler <nathan AT yergler.net>
  • To: Jonas Öberg <jonas AT coyote.org>
  • Cc: "cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] WebStatement and attributionURL
  • Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:36:48 -0700

That's a great point, the formatting does conflate the creator and the
work a bit.

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Jonas Öberg <jonas AT coyote.org> wrote:
> Hi Nathan!
>
> I'd be hard pressed to argue semantics with one of the ccREL authors :-)
>
> The specification is clear that attributionURL is "the URL to link to
> when providing attribution", which is a reference to the license
> requirement. I think what confuses it is that this is most often used,
> even in the ccREL examples, to refer to what can be interpreted as the
> URL of the attributionName. For example in the RDFa:
>
> This work by <a xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#";
> href="http://jonasoberg.net/"; property="cc:attributionName"
> rel="cc:attributionURL">Jonas Öberg</a> is licensed under a <a
> rel="license"
> href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US";>Creative
> Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License</a>.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jonas
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Nathan Yergler <nathan AT yergler.net> wrote:
>> How do you believe a web statement differs from the attribution URL,
>> functionally?
>>
>> IIRC a "web statement" is supposed to be a web accessible resource
>> that contains information about the rights, permissions, etc related
>> to the work. CC licenses state that the attribution URL only needs to
>> be cited with the work when it includes copyright information or
>> license notice (4(b)(iii) in
>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode). So both need to
>> be web-accessible resources that contain license, copyright, or rights
>> information. I believe that was the basis for treating them as
>> synonyms.
>>
>> NRY
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Jonas Öberg <jonas AT coyote.org> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I was just made aware that in the license chooser, when a user enters
>>> a URL to attribute the work to, this is stored in different properties
>>> in the XMP and RDFa formats. In XMP, it's stored in
>>> xapRights:WebStatement and in RDFa it's stored in cc:attributionURL. I
>>> understand the difference between the two, but it's not clear to me
>>> why there is a difference between how the information from the license
>>> chooser is encoded in the various formats.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that there ought to be a separate field that allows a
>>> user to specify a WebStatement, and that the URL to attribute the work
>>> to should be encoded in the cc:attributionURL regardless of what
>>> format is used.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Jonas
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