Developer discussion for Creative Commons technology and tools

[Maarten Zeinstra <mz AT kl.nl>]

Hi Diane,

I'm neutral about  being able to embed the legal code into another document, like a scroll box on the deed page.

What I am heavily opposing here is adding an extra layer of formatting to the legal code. Commonplace HTML is fine for the purpose you are referring to here. If you choose for MarkDown or HTML, either way you will need to develop a parser that converts that format to another format. However if you choose MarkDown you will need to write two parsers, for HTML only one: MarkDown to HTML and MarkDown to embeddeable text, or only HTML to embeddeable text. I would choose the latter as it is the way with the most standardisation and least development time. Developers that CC at the moment doesn't have. 

I do have to remark that this is an unusual process of requesting feedback. It seems that you have intended functionality in mind, choose a way of implementing that functionality and are requesting feedback only on the implementation, leaving the intended functionality out of the discussion. A more structural way to go about this it so ask us for ways to implement intended functionality and not comment on the consequences of a flawed implementation. That would give a far more constructive discussion and leaves room for creativity.

Best,

Maarten

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On Apr 18, 2013, at 21:55 , Diane Peters <diane AT creativecommons.org> wrote:

Jumping in here on the legal team piece, please see inline.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Mills <dan AT creativecommons.org> wrote:

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(1) user visits the deed. It might be required for the legal code to be included there in some form (such as an expanding widget, for example). This is what I'm hearing from the legal team - it's not 100% clear yet, but a possibility. In such a setting, the legal code would need to

- not contain the big header

- not include the "back to deed" link at the bottom

- not include links to translations being proposed for the legalcode page (the deed already has locale links)

What Dan's alluding to here is a possibility I mentioned to him when discussing 4.0.  Specifically, a few affiliates (maybe one or two) have in the past asked that the deed be reproduced at the top of the legal code.  Dan's reaction back was, if it's determined there is a decision taken in the 4.0 process to locate the deed and legal code in closer, immediate proximity for some reason, then there exists the other possibility of having the legal code appear in a scroll box (or other) on the deed rather than the reverse.

This is not yet a discussion framed for comment with the affiliates, I'm trying to follow up with those couple of affiliates who have petitioned for this change in the past first.  It's not at all certain it will progress, just so you're aware.

Thanks for the good discussion.  We'll progress the "what do we need/desire from a legal perspective to remain unchanged" on the affiliate list.

Diane

Diane