Developer discussion for Creative Commons technology and tools

[Jon Phillips <jon AT rejon.org>]

On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 14:58 +0200, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2007/8/31, Jon Phillips <jon AT rejon.org>:
> > All sounds good, but I think best to channel these ideas onto the wiki
> > and roadmap. Rafael, can your team help with some of these todos and
> > give good feedback.
> 
> Right now we are all very busy with _the release_. KDE 4.0 is coming
> in october, and we are all very concentrated on it. After the release
> we need to polish all the bug reports that come into our bug reporting
> system.
> 
> For this reason I was planning on add liblicense KDE work for 4.1
> version. This will be far better.

Sounds good!

> About the wiki, I think that what would be really nice is adding
> another point on the roadmap: "KDE integration mainstream", or
> something like that, explaining that we are planning this for 4.1
> version. We can't really know what version of liblicense will be
> released at that time, so we can't even predict which one should be on
> the streets. We just can say that for 4.1 we are planning of adding
> liblicense KDE work mainstream.

Ok, I added to 0.7 release of liblicense, cool?

> When have more time I will get in contact with you too, because for
> example: this work can be added to almost all applications (KOffice
> devs told it would be really nice for them, as well as other specific
> applications: graphics, sounds...). So our integration to this library
> could be very very deep. On almost all content editing/creation
> applications, as well as on the Dolphin file manager (where users will
> be able to set license to more than one file at a time).

This would be super brilliant!!!

> For the file manager I had been thinking on a work that can be a bit
> tricky, but that would rock for sure. I probably could give it a try
> when finishing my _large_ TODO list. Is like: if you select 5 mp3
> files, and they have no license, and you are the creator, then you are
> able to select the license for those 5 files through the Properties
> dialog (the License tab).

Great, this is what our kde integration does already, so with your help,
pulling the KDE bits into KDE repository will only help this!

> It would be interesting as well having mimetype license resolving.
> With this I mean that the properties dialog should remove all
> selectable licenses for letting on the dialog only those that match
> those mimetypes.

Yes, Jason, do you have any ideas on this?

> It would be really nice adding that dialog all existing licenses too.
> 
> What I wonder for the file manager if what happens if you select 3 mp3
> files and 2 cpp files for example. How could we achieve the properties
> dialog. I think this can be discussed in further discussions about the
> implementation, but just for set the basics problems that can appear
> if this solution is taken.
> 
> Since I'm not a lawyer, I would like to know if a file is marked as
> "not editing possible" for example, if the graphics editor in KDE (e.g
> Krita) could say when this image has been edited and going to save
> "The License won't let you do this", or on the other hand, this is
> possible if you do not distribute the modified copy.
> 
> I think that's all :)

Well, if you enforce things, you get into the DRM territory...the CC
approach is to leave it up to the users and this has worked well...I've
thought of making a pre-flight legal check that would highlight
problems, but not enforce it, but some do not like this in previous
discussions (EFF, etc)

Regardless, I think it would be useful to many...

Jon

> 
> Bye and thank you,
> Rafael Fernández López.
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