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  • From: Jon Phillips <jon AT rejon.org>
  • To: Victor Stone <fourstones.net AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org, cctools-cchost AT lists.sourceforge.net, John-Paul Arp <jp AT ci-fi.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] ccHosting a local filter of/for ccMixter
  • Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:54:05 -0700

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 11:31 -0700, Victor Stone wrote:
> On 8/22/06, John-Paul Arp <jp AT ci-fi.org> wrote:
> > Here I am assuming that ccMixter intends to be a ccHost music hub. But
> > if not, I was thinking there could be (for example) a Canada ccHost
> > site, a New Brunswick ccHost site, and a Fredericton ccHost site that
> > form a hierarchy, and automatically and logically synergize content.
>
> ccMixter's goal is not be a hub, just another place where remixes
> happen and be just another example of ccHost's overall goal

Excctly, John-Paul, it would be great for you to make your own ccHost
site that hosts music...The thinking is to have a distributed network of
media sites that can all connect together...so ccmixter.org is just one
of those... :)

Jon

> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcHost#Goal
>
> We see every ccHost installation as part of a larger web of content,
> not the top of mirrored hierarchy. We handle cross domain attribution
> using the sample API.
>
> http://ccmixter.org/freesound
>
> as an example.
>
> Install ccHost and point to ccMixter, Freesound as a sample pool and
> you are connected.
>
> Peace,
> VS
>
> > co-operative in my home town (Fredericton New Brunswick Canada), and I
> > plan to use ccHost to allow local artists and journalists to host
> > cc-licensed content. I am also a computer science masters student that
> > runs a free / open source software club, and I would really like to
> > contribute to this project (ccHost).
> >
> > What I would like to ask you all about, is integrating my (and other)
> > local ccHost site, with the a centralized site ccMixter, such that:
> > -all music content on my local sight is mirrored on ccMixter, and
> > -all content on ccMixter that is tagged as originating from my home
> > town is archived locally.
> >
> >
> > I think this kind of integration would provide the following benefits:
> >
> > 1. The main benefit would be that it provides a means for establishing
> > a local character and community roots to the Creative Commons
> > movement.
> > 2. Conversely, hosting content produced locally on ccMixter would give
> > it a wider audience.
> > 3. Data redundancy: if ccMixter was to suffer some tragedy, our
> > community would retain its culture. Conversely if my home town were to
> > suffer some tragedy, then, at least part of our culture would be
> > preserved at ccMixter or archive.org).
> >
> > I think this could be accomplished by:
> > 1. Using a unique tag that signifies that the file originated from a
> > locality.
> > 2. Having the local site subscribe to a feed from ccMixter and add
> > locally labeled content that is not already in our database.
> > 3. Having ccMixter subscribe to my local site, such that it receives
> > all our music files.
> >
> > One problem I can see with this, is that remixes produced elsewhere
> > would maintain our local tag, and it would be good to distinguish
> > between music that was produced locally, from music that was made
> > elsewhere, but with samples that were produced locally.
> >
> > Perhaps, there could be another field, besides the tag, that indicates
> > the originating ccHost site(s).
> >
> > Note that though the application I am talking about is integrating a
> > local hub with a centralized hub, this could be equally useful for
> > integrating genre hubs (for example) with a central node.
> >
> > I hope you find these proposals interesting. As I mentioned, if there
> > was interest in pursuing this kind of integration, I would be
> > interested in helping out with the development.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John-Paul
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