Creative Commons - Belgium

[Severine Dusollier <severine.dusollier AT fundp.ac.be>]

Title: Re: [Cc-be] CC music at Fosdem

Dear Bruno,

If you play only CC-licensed music and can prove it, you should not pay anything to the Sabam.

I would suggest you get in contact with the responsible of those perceptions at Sabam and explain your case.

> The responsible for brussels is :
> Philippe Gontier
> Gérant de la Filiale
> Sabam - Région de Bruxelles Capitale
> Rue d'Arlon 75-77 bte 2
> 1040 Bruxelles
> Tel :++32 2 286 84 74

Fax ++32 2 742 24 60

E-mail : agent.bruxelles AT sabam.be

If there is any problem I could intervene.

That implies however that you can demonstrate that all the music you will play is licensed under CC.

BUT (and it is a big BUT), it is true that if some artists are members of the Sabam (and of any European collecting society with which SABAM collaborates to collect copyright royalties), those artists are normally not allowed to license their works under a CC license. Therefore, for those artists, the licenses they put on their works is not valid for the Sabam.  THis is a big issue right now for CC.

Anyway, I would not raise this point to the Sabam, let them find this legal intricacy by themselves.

If you have any more questions, you can always call or email me

Séverine

belgium CC project leader

Professor - University of Namur

CRID (Research Center in Computer Law)- Head of the IPR Department

Rempart de la Vierge 5          Tél: +32 81 72 47 60
5000 NAMUR                  Fax: +32 81 72 52 02
BELGIIUM                    severine.dusollier AT fundp.ac.be

http://www.crid.be

Hello list,

The people of Fosdem, the yearly Free & Open Source Software Meeting
held in Brussels, are considering playing CC licensed music in between
presentations.

Appearantly, they would need to pay Sabam even if the music they play is
strictly CC licensed. Is this correct? Or does it only matter for
artists who are a member of Sabam?

Thanks,
-- bruno
bruno AT indymedia.be

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:       Re: [FOSDEM-FIT] Music between talks
Date:       Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:26:30 +0100
From:    Jan-Frederik Martens <jfmartens AT fosdem.org>
Reply-To:    fit AT lists.fosdem.org
To: fit AT lists.fosdem.org
References: <4740B8CD.6000903 AT fosdem.org>



Pascal Bleser wrote:
> But it's just an idea, really. What do you think ?

A legal/financial remark:
You may think it's crazy, but even if we use Creative Commons or similar
music, we'll still have to pay the bastards of the 'Billijke Vergoeding':

http://www.debillijkevergoeding.be (down for the moment)
http://www.unizo.be/viewobj.jsp?article=10014 (dutch)
http://www.chiro.be/artikel.php?id=672 (dutch)

In short: Sabam needs to be payed for composer/author royalties (does
not apply here), De billijke vergoeding has to be payed for the performance.

I've had a quite unpleasant e-mail correspondance with them a couple of
years ago about a similar situation.

JF


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