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  • From: Donald Vance <donaldrvance AT mac.com>
  • To: "Rev. Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Mike Burke <michaelgburk AT yahoo.com>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Numbers 16:21
  • Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:56:32 -0500

QHL (קהל)  as a noun does not occur here, only עדה. The H stem of the root קהל occurs in 16:19. None of this negates what Bryant said. 

Donald R Vance

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On Sep 22, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "Rev. Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net> wrote:

Mike,
 
There are two Hebrew words that normally translated "congregation." QAHAL and `EDAH." What is interesting is that the two words are translated in the LXX by several different words, of which, two are primary.
 
1.    QAHAL (assembly) is normally translated in the LXX by EKKLHSIA (assembly; Church [unfortunately, this latter word has lead to horrible theology: there was NO CHURCH in the OT. Don't go there.] ) in the majority of instances, but also by OCHLOS (crowd) and PHLTHOS (multitude). What is striking is that in Genesis, Leviticus, Numbers and Ezekiel 32:23 QAHAL is translated by SYNAGOGH.
 
2.    `EDAH is normally translated by SYNAGOGH (congregation; transliterated into English as Synagoge). Of the 225 times in the LXX SYNAGOGH is word used, but there are 34 times that has no Hebrew equivalent.
 
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
 
 
 
 
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