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- From: Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin AT biu.ac.il>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband
- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:57:32 +0300
Hi Chris,
זקנתי להיות אשה would be "I am too old to be a woman", which is of course
nonsense, because even an old woman is still a woman. A speaker of modern
Hebrew would say something like אני זקנה מדי להיות עם איש, "I am too old to
be with a man", since לאיש, "of/for a man" implies that the woman is
possessed by the man, and while this reflects the situation in antiquity
perfectly, it is not the way most couples in modern society like to express
their relationship. Also, a speaker of modern Hebrew might prefer גבר instead
of איש, since איש is often used for "anyone" generically, while גבר is used
for "man" specifically. So להיות עם איש would sound like "to be with anyone",
while להיות עם גבר, "to be with a man", would hint at a sexual relationship,
which of course is exactly what Naomi is talking about.
Yigal Levin
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Subject: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband
The part of verse 12: זקנתי מהיות לאיש concentrating on the mem prefix.
Looking down my lists of how מן is used I have presumed to fit it into the
"Causal" category, (from arnold and choi ref heb syntax book). Literally
translated in idiomatic way: "I am too old from being for a husband." It's
interesting to see how modern hebrew would say this: אני זקן מכדי שאהיה לי
הבעל they have also that nuance of 'from' followed by the verb
'being'. It is interesting to note that she does not say :
זקנתי להיות אישה
Chris Watts
Ireland
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[b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Chris Watts, 07/22/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband, Jason Hare, 07/22/2013
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Yigal Levin, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Chris Watts, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Yigal Levin, 07/22/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband, Chris Watts, 07/22/2013
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Isaac Fried, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Chris Watts, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Chris Watts, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Yigal Levin, 07/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ruth 1: 12 too old for a husband,
Chris Watts, 07/22/2013
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