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- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
- To: nir AT ccet.ufrn.br, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ezek 16:3
- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:02:00 -0400 (EDT)
Nir Cohen: I’m not so sure that you and I are interpreting Ezekiel 16: 3 very differently. It seems rather that my phrasing was misleading. 1. You wrote: “all the three nations: emorite, canaanite, hurrian, are simply mentioned there for having been the lords of canaan at the time of the patriarchs.” Yes, that was the situation in “Abram the Hebrew…dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite [that’s the “Amorites”], brother [that is, a fellow princeling, though having no actual blood connection] of Eshcol [that’s a Canaanite name, representing the “Canaanites”], and brother of Aner [that’s a Hurrian name, representing the “Hurrians”]….” So I agree completely with you that on the eve of the
Hebrews beginning their great rise to prominence in [Let me reiterate for the benefit of others reading this
post that there’s nothing in any of these passages about the classic Hittites
from eastern So far, so good. 2. You
wrote: “there is no indication in
the text to your allegation that the hebrews were My phrasing must have been misleading. In fact, I’m the one who argues that the Patriarchal narratives portray each Patriarch as marrying a woman/Matriarch whose mother was an ethnic Hurrian. So I’m the one who emphasizes the maternal Hurrian connection regarding the early Hebrews, while not emphasizing so greatly any connection to Canaanites or Amorites. In fact, the greatest villain to the early Hebrews was an Amorite: Yapaxu. Moreover, one of the most prominent but totally
overlooked themes throughout the entire Hebrew Bible is how the Hebrews
gradually displaced the Hurrian nobles in Canaan who, at the time of the birth
of Judaism and the Hebrews, had dominated the ruling class of The early Hebrew author of the Patriarchal narratives in
fact had a quite low opinion of the Canaanites, because for over a century they
had been “yesterday’s people”. Both
the hill country north of 3. You wrote: “moreover, mention of these nations (including the semitic ones) has in ezek. 16 a strong negative sense, as nations that corrupted the nation, as clear from his 16:44-48.” Yes. The Hebrews are viewed as being YHWH’s Chosen People, and they should not follow in the ways of other peoples. But of course Ezekiel is saying that in relation to his own day, whereas the situation in the Patriarchal Age was quite different. I don’t really disagree with what you say; it’s just that I was trying to make a
different point. Historically, the
Hebrews first arose in a Canaan which had the following characteristics [as
accurately reflected throughout the Patriarchal narratives, and as fairly
accurately briefly summarized in one sentence at Ezekiel 16: 3]: (i) the Canaanites, who had been
dominant in Canaan for well over a millennium, were seemingly fading away; (ii) Amorites were more dynamic, but
were few in number; and (iii)
Canaan had for a generation now been dominated, oddly enough, by dashing Hurrian
charioteers, yet even before the Patriarchs’ very eyes, it seemed that the days
of the Hurrians too might soon be numbered as well [since the Hurrian homeland
of MDYN/Mitanni in eastern Syria was being utterly crushed by the Hittites under
mighty Hittite King Suppiluliuma (Biblical “Tidal”)]. 4. You wrote: “by this i do not reject a miscigenous picture of canaan in the early patriarchal time: quite on the contrary.” I agree. Jim Stinehart |
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[b-hebrew] ezek 16:3,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 07/16/2013
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