Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Rolf" <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no>]

Dear Nir

Modern Hebrew grammars list four different Hebrew conjugations (though A. 
Niccacci lists five, including WEYIQTOL). In the Masoretic text, there is a 
difference between what is called the conversive form and the conjunctive 
form. The differences are vocalization and gemination. I explain these 
differences as pragmatic: The differences are caused by linguistic 
conventions—the fondness of the conjunction WAW in Hebrew clauses and  the 
phonetic rules of the Masoretes.
If this is correct, it means that there is no SEMANTIC difference between 
WAYYIQTOL and WEYIQTOL. In the Masoretic text, but both forms are conjunctive.

When I have commented on the use of verbs in the DSS, I have referred to the 
extra-biblical documents. Depending on whether we only count prefixforms with 
prefixed WAW where all consonants are visible or whether we add some broken 
forms, we find about 500 examples. Because vowels and gemination are lacking 
in the DSS, there is no way to distinguish those forms that in the Masoretic 
text have patah and gemination from those that have shewa and no gemination. 
Therefore, there is no difference between a so-called conversive form and a 
conjunctive form in the DSS.


Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway




Mandag 20. Mai 2013 19:07 CEST skrev "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." 
<nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>:

> dear rolf,
>
> i tried to check your statement that the W+affix forms in the DSS
> are just conjunctive, i.e. cannot be described as consecutive or inverted.
> i assume you were referring specifically to those which are copies of 
> biblical
> text, otherwise comparison cannot be made. thus i assume you consider the 
> big
> isaiah scroll among them. the photo of the scroll can be found in
>                http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qum-1.htm
>
> i checked only the first "page" which corresponds to roughly
> isa 1:1-25. i must admit the quality is not the best...
>
> anyway, weqatal on v.8 is illegible (WNWTRH or NWTRH). WYSRNY
> indeed seems to lose the W (v. 11). but the two wayiqtol W$M(TM
> and WMRYTM (v. 19,20) are biblical alright. thus, at least 50%
> biblical prefix forms on the first "page".
>
> i did not investigate further, for lack of time; but if you have,
> could you please make a more precise statement consistent with
> this observation?
>
> nir cohen
>
>
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