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- From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
- To: Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] common IE
- Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 11:53:04 -0400
1. We can carry this game even further: "one" = אני "cut" = קטע "fire" = בער ect.. But all this is of no interest to Hebrew, and will not be accepted, on emotional - ideological grounds, by the Europeans, the same way some people vehemently reject the idea that man evolved from ape. Will the English submit to the idea that their queen is speaking pidgin Hebrew?
2. The idea of Proto-Semitic was introduced into "Hebrew Studies" at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem by professors who were educated in Germany and Austria, where they picked it from the immutable prevailing belief in Proto-IE. They eagerly adopted it, I believe, to sound scientific, and thus gain acceptance. We don't need Germany's academic approval any more, possibly the reverse.
3. Aramaic appears to me to be but bastard Hebrew, and the genetic relationship between Hebrew and Arabic is a mystery, and so any search for a common ancestral language is, in my opinion, futile. I dismiss "Akkadian" and "Ugaritic" as they are but tentative languages, and of which I know nothing (and I don't think they are worth the effort to "study".)
4. I am convinced that the Ultra-Proto-Hebrew was made up of uni- literal roots that came together to produce more complex roots. Then, the agglutination of personal pronouns and other roots affected the formation of the present day written word. For instance, from the uni- literal root L we have the words:
AL, EL, OL, UL, ALEH, LO, LUL, ALIYLAH, ALIYL, OLAL, LAYIL, LULAAH, LOA, ELIY, ELAH
אלה, עלי, לוע, אל, אל, עול, עול, עלה, לא, לול, עלילה, עליל, עולל, ליל, לולאה
all seemingly having to do with elevation.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On May 7, 2013, at 5:10 AM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote:
isaac,
i find the article you sent very interesting. another word not included in
their list is "cut". and, of course, "one". i would not be surprised if
"ashes" were found to be somehow related to BH )$.
by the way, i notice you calmly accept a common basis for indo- european
while rejecting vehemently any discussion in proto-semitic!???...
nir cohen
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[b-hebrew] common IE,
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[b-hebrew] IE,
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