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- From: David Kolinsky <hadeesh AT sbcglobal.net>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] QDM and $LM
- Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 12:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Hebrew list members,
As far as I can find, there are only two uses for the hiphil of QDM in the TaNaKh :
Amos 9:10: בחרב ימותו כל חטאי עמי האמרים לא תגיש ותקדים בעדינו הרעה
which I translate as : "By the sword, all those who sin of my people shall die, those saying 'the evil shall not approach closer nor shall it come before (all about) us.'"
and
Job 41:3 : מי הקדימני ואשלם תחת כל השמים לי הוא
translated in
Judaic Classics as: Who has claim on me from before, that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is mine.
((all of the Christian translations seem to be on a different verse???????????????))
I understand that the hiphil of QDM is often translated as "precede in time." (especially those I saw in the Talmud). However, it can and I believe does mean "to precede in space" in both Amos 9:10 and Job 41:3, so I translate the latter as :
"Who has preceded me that I shall submit myself, everything under the sky=heaven, it is mine. (I shall not silence his boasts...... [boasts as in Is16:6; Jer48:30])"
So I suggest that here the piel of $LM means "to submit oneself" as it does in Arabic and not "to repay, pay, compensate, reward" as it almost always seems to in the TaNaKh.
I would greatly appreciate any comments,
David Kolinsky
Monterey CA
As far as I can find, there are only two uses for the hiphil of QDM in the TaNaKh :
Amos 9:10: בחרב ימותו כל חטאי עמי האמרים לא תגיש ותקדים בעדינו הרעה
which I translate as : "By the sword, all those who sin of my people shall die, those saying 'the evil shall not approach closer nor shall it come before (all about) us.'"
and
Job 41:3 : מי הקדימני ואשלם תחת כל השמים לי הוא
translated in
Judaic Classics as: Who has claim on me from before, that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is mine.
((all of the Christian translations seem to be on a different verse???????????????))
I understand that the hiphil of QDM is often translated as "precede in time." (especially those I saw in the Talmud). However, it can and I believe does mean "to precede in space" in both Amos 9:10 and Job 41:3, so I translate the latter as :
"Who has preceded me that I shall submit myself, everything under the sky=heaven, it is mine. (I shall not silence his boasts...... [boasts as in Is16:6; Jer48:30])"
So I suggest that here the piel of $LM means "to submit oneself" as it does in Arabic and not "to repay, pay, compensate, reward" as it almost always seems to in the TaNaKh.
I would greatly appreciate any comments,
David Kolinsky
Monterey CA
- [b-hebrew] QDM and $LM, David Kolinsky, 05/03/2013
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