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Re: [b-hebrew] hieratic bible? (was: akkadian bible?)
- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] hieratic bible? (was: akkadian bible?)
- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:25:22 -0400 (EDT)
Tory Thorpe: Let’s compare our two theories of the case as to the specific example of the name of Joseph’s Egyptian wife. Genesis 41: 45 sets forth her name as: )SNT. If you are right that this name was originally written in
Egyptian hieratic, then (i) there would be no confusion between Egyptian aleph
and Egyptian ayin [no confusion of gutturals], (ii) Hebrew samekh would
presumably represent Egyptian sin/%, and (iii) NT at the end would be the
Egyptian goddess Neith [and would not be nTr, because the spelling in hieratic
of netjer had an R at the end even after such R was no longer pronounced]. By sharp contrast, if I’m right that
this name was originally recorded in Akkadian-style cuneiform, then the
situation is entirely different.
Cuneiform could not distinguish between the gutturals ayin and aleph, so
the first letter in this name could just as easily have been intended to be
ayin, even though the received alphabetical text has aleph. Cuneiform samekh often represents
alphabetical Hebrew shin/$, rather than sin/%, as 7th century BCE Jerusalem
[when the cuneiform text was transformed into Biblical Hebrew] is known for
“[t]he reception of Akkadian shin as samekh….” James Maxwell Miller et al, “The Land
That I Will Show You” (2001), p. 125.
Finally, the name pa-xa-na-te at Amarna Letter EA 60: 10
confirms that by the Amarna Age, the final R in netjer was no longer pronounced
and was not rendered in Akkadian cuneiform, so NT/nun-tav = nTr/netjer. Your theory of the case would
have the unfortunate consequence of cementing in stone the traditional view that
this name of the daughter of the high-priest of Ra from On means “she
belongs to the goddess Neit”. But
that is i-m-p-o-s-s-i-b-l-e , as
the high priest of Ra from On would not give his daughter a name that honors the
goddess Neit, nor does such a name tell us the function of Joseph’s Egyptian
wife in Genesis. Per Genesis
48: 6, it is clear that in addition to bearing Manasseh and Ephraim to Joseph
before Joseph’s father Jacob moved all the Hebrews from Canaan to
The reason why these Biblical Egyptian names near the end of Genesis are so exciting is because the confusion of gutturals in these names helps show that the Patriarchal narratives are m-u-c-h older as a written text than university scholars realize. These Biblical Egyptian names were originally recorded in writing, but not in Egyptian hieratic [which, as with alphabetical Hebrew, would have no confusion of gutturals whatsoever], but rather in Akkadian-style cuneiform in the late Amarna time period. The key to seeing that the Patriarchal narratives were originally recorded in Akkadian-style cuneiform way back in the Late Bronze Age is to note the confusion of gutturals in non-Hebrew proper names. Jim Stinehart |
- Re: [b-hebrew] hieratic bible? (was: akkadian bible?), JimStinehart, 04/24/2013
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