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- From: Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin AT biu.ac.il>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] abrhm - Keep to the Subject!
- Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:49:54 +0200
Hello Jim, You've laid out your historical reconstruction many times in the past, and it has been deemed off-topic for this list. Please stick to the linguistic issues. Thank you, Yigal Levin, Co-Moderator, B-Hebrew From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of JimStinehart AT aol.com John Leake: We agree as to many things. But as to the most important point, you and I are in total disagreement, when you write: “I don't see a fourteenth-century text. A lot of the features you cite as signs of an author I see as signs of storytelling within an oral tradition.” Let me list a few of the many features of the Patriarchal narratives that were written down in Akkadian cuneiform in the Amarna Age regarding Years 12-14, and which could not possibly, under any circumstances, be “storytelling within an oral tradition”. 1. Genesis 47: 28 says that Jacob was an early semi-monotheistic leader of his people in 2. In Years 12-13, with “Year 13” being specifically referenced at Genesis 14: 4, the ruler of the “valley” [Genesis 37: 14] that was the opposite of “east” of Bethel [Genesis 13: 9, 11], namely the valley of ia-lu-na [the spelling of “Ayalon” at Amarna Letter EA 287: 57 by IR-Heba’s scribe: Biblical )-L-N at Genesis 13: 18, 14: 13, 18: 1] west of Bethel and Jerusalem, was Mamre the Amorite [Genesis 14: 13]. Historically in the Amarna Age, the Amorite princeling Milk-i-Ilu ruled the 3. But as good as things were for the first Hebrews in Years 12-13, it all went bad in Year 14 when Milk-i-Ilu, against the advice of the first Hebrews, unfortunately picked as his successor his firstborn son, Yapaxu, who hated tentdwellers, instead of his younger son who soon broke from Yapaxu and allied with the tentdwellers, per Amarna Letter EA 298. Firstborn son Yapaxu was a bona fide threat to drive the first Hebrews out of their beloved homeland in the northeast 4. In order to show empathy with Akhenaten’s Year 14 problems [so that Akhenaten might be bestirred to remove hated Yapaxu from power in the Hebrews’ homeland of the 5. In order to show further empathy with Akhenaten’s Year 14 problems, Abraham’s nephew/“brother” Lot is portrayed at Genesis 19: 30-38 as being able to carry on his line [in order to “preserve life”] by means of siring sons/grandsons by his own daughters, and the son of Jacob whom Jacob will later anoint as the new leader of the Hebrews at Genesis 49: 8-10, namely Judah, is portrayed at Genesis 38: 12-30 as siring sons/grandsons by his own daughter-in-law Tamar, one of whom, Perez, is fated to become the leader of the next generation of the Hebrews [per Genesis 38: 29 and Genesis 46: 12]. Historically in the Amarna Age, Akhenaten tried to sire sons/grandsons by his own daughters to be his proper heir, since he had no luck siring a son as his proper heir by formerly beloved Nefertiti. 6. It was Year 13 when pharaoh Akhenaten had his vizier confiscate a great deal of valuable land along the 7. Per the Amarna Letters, it was Year 13 when the strongman ruler of Shechem was assassinated under bizarre circumstances on behalf of, but without the prior approval of, the early semi-monotheist Akhenaten. Per the Patriarchal narratives, it was 13 tenfold years after Abraham’s birth when the strongman ruler of Shechem was assassinated under bizarre circumstances on behalf of, but without the prior approval of, the early semi-monotheist Jacob in chapter 34 of Genesis. Do you see the p-i-n-p-o-i-n-t historical accuracy of the Patriarchal narratives in recalling every minute detail of Years 12-14? There’s no way that that level of detail, regarding three historical years, could under any circumstances be the product of “storytelling within an oral tradition”. Not. I know that university professors teach you that the Patriarchal narratives are late and fictional, but they’re wrong. The Patriarchal narratives in fact are incredibly ancient, having been composed and written down in Akkadian cuneiform [a la the Amarna Letters, except using Akkadian cuneiform to write Canaanite/pre-Hebrew words, not Akkadian words] in late Amarna. The Patriarchal narratives have p-i-n-p-o-i-n-t historical accuracy in recalling every jot and tittle of what actually happened in Years 12-14 under Akhenaten’s unfortunate reign, most all of which we can confirm with certainty by reference to the Amarna Letters. The Patriarchal narratives are n-o-t an oral tradition, as you’re taught at school. Rather, the Patriarchal narratives were written down at the very beginning, right after Akhenaten’s death [with the scribe who was retained by the first Hebrews for the task likely being the former scribe of IR-Heba of Jerusalem, who had been living only a day’s walk east of where the first Hebrews tenuously were sojourning in the northeast Ayalon Valley in the second half of the Amarna Age]. In an attempt to show empathy with Akhenaten’s Year 14 problems [so that Akhenaten might be bestirred to remove hated Yapaxu from power in the Hebrews’ homeland in the Ayalon Valley], great Patriarch #1 features in the middle of his name one of Akhenaten’s favorite divine references: resh/R, here being, via the Egyptian divine name ra, a generic reference to the divine. )B R HM: father [)B], by divine Will [R], of a multitude [HM], just as Genesis 17: 5 accurately tells us the meaning is. You can’t get it more straightforward than that. But only in Year 14 [when there was still a semi-realistic chance that Akhenaten might help the first Hebrews] would a Hebrew author ever have come up with, and written down, an Egypt-friendly name like that for the most beloved Hebrew Patriarch. Jim Stinehart |
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[b-hebrew] abrhm,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 03/12/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] abrhm,
J. Leake, 03/12/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] abrhm,
jimstinehart, 03/12/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] abrhm, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 03/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] abrhm, Isaac Fried, 03/12/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] abrhm,
jimstinehart, 03/12/2013
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