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  • From: "Ishnian" <ishinan AT comcast.net>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] ] A VISUAL EXPRESSION OF A THEOLOGICAL IDEA OF THESKY/HEAVEN ( Rolf's Response 5)
  • Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 03:54:34 -0500


From: Rolf
To: Ishnian ; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ] A VISUAL EXPRESSION OF A THEOLOGICAL IDEA OF
THESKY/HEAVEN ( Rolf's Response 4)


Dear George,

I do not want to discuss the age of the earth. My words were that the
creation of the earth is undated in the text, and therefore the text does not
contradict the ages given by different scientists. My point was that the
creation account do not start with chaos, and that the words of Genesis 1:1-2
are not mythical, but they accord with modern science. I will say that the
same is true for the whole creation account in Genesis 1 and 2. it can be
given an interpretation that accords with scientific finds, and no part of it
needs to be mythical.

There is one exception, though. The creation by God is a metaphysical
proposition, and metaphysics is a priori excluded in a scientific
explanation. If theologicans follow this stirct scientific principle, the
creation must be viewed as mythological before we start examining it.

I am aware that b-hebrew primarily is a forum for the discussion of the
Hebrew text and its meaning. And a discussion of the creation account in
Genesis 1 and 2 with the question whether it is mythical or not, should of
course be centered around the meaning of the Hebrew words.


Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway




Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway



Onsdag 5. September 2012 22:53 CEST skrev George Athas
<George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>:


Let's avoid getting into discussions of science and the age of the earth
here. B-Hebrew isn't a forum for that discussion, interesting though it is.

Ishinan, I think you've slightly misunderstood Jerry's post. He is arguing
that Gen 1 specifically envisions a situation of chaos/disorder/vacuum (תהו
ובהו) from which God creates an orderly universe. This is not to deny that
there are other texts in the Hebrew Bible that see a creatio ex nihilo, but
Gen 1 may not be one of those texts.


GEORGE ATHAS
Dean of Research,
Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
Sydney, Australia








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