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- From: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- To: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] sky
- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:00:18 +0000
Rolf Furuli is still having some trouble sending and receiving posts. I send
this through on his behalf:
GEORGE ATHAS
Dean of Research,
Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
Sydney, Australia
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Dear listmembers,
I would like to express some thoughts regarding the supposed solidity of the
RQ(, and I will return to the etymological fallacy and related issues, that
is, to lexical semantics.
It was not the RQ( that lifted the waters, but it was God, and is portrayed
as a part his acts in creation. I see no reason why the lifting of the waters
should imply that the RQ( was solid. The ancients knew that clouds existed
above their heads, and that rain came down. The fact that waters existed
above did not lead to the conclusion that something solid held the clouds in
space.
I would like to discuss the prepositions used in connection with RQ(. In
Genesis 1:7 we find prepositions that clearly have the meaning "below" and
"above." In 1:15, 16, 17 we find the preposition B, which can have the local
meaning "in." (We find this meaning in several Bible translations.). I 1:20
we (L-PNY, and how shal we understand this? In Genesis 1:2 and 6:1, (L-PNY
evidently has the meaning "upon"; in 1:29 we find the meaning "upon" or "on
the face of." So where did the birds fly? Below a solid firmament. No, the
preposition TXT is not used, as it is in Ezekiel 1:23, where we have a
symbolic representation of God's throne. The NIV and JPS renders the
expression in Genesis 1:20 as "across the expanse," and in my view, this is a
good choice. Which prepositions are used is in no way conclusive. But the
natural conclusion simply is that RQ( is the atmosphere; the luminaries are
viewed as lights "in" the atmosphere, and the birds fly "across" the
atmosphere.
A basic linguistic conclusion is that we must have a diachronic view of
lexical semantics. Word meaning and the referenses of a word changes through
time. Therefore, it is a fallacy to use the oldest meaning of a word to
understand its reference in a particular context. This means that
etymological arguments are weak indeed. It is also a fallacy to use similar
roots in cognate languages the establish the meaning or reference of a Hebrew
word in a particular contexts. A good example is the root )MR. In Hebrew the
meaning is "say," in Akkadian AMARU has the meaning "see," and in Ethiopic
AMMARA has the mening "show; indicate; tell." The diachronic change in word
meaning is much greater when we compare cognate languages than when we look
at Hebrew texts with different ages. It is also a fallacy to use
Pseudepigraphic writings or writings from different nations to find the
meaning or reference of a Hebrew word, used in a particular context. The
views of the authors of such writings need not be the same as the views of
the writers of Genesis.
So, I return to Barrs dictum: The meaning and reference of a word can only be
found in the synchronic uses of it, that is, how the word is used in a
particular short time.
Best regards,
Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway
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Re: [b-hebrew] sky,
George Athas, 09/02/2012
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] sky,
George Athas, 09/02/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] sky, George Athas, 09/02/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] sky,
TedBro, 09/02/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] sky, George Athas, 09/02/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] sky, TedBro, 09/04/2012
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[b-hebrew] sky,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 09/19/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] sky, George Athas, 09/19/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] sky, Will Parsons, 09/20/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] sky, Isaac Fried, 09/20/2012
- [b-hebrew] sky, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 09/21/2012
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