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- From: Alan Wood <salad_wood AT yahoo.com.au>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place"
- Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:46:32 -0800 (PST)
Dear Jim,
As I understand it, you are saying:
· A place called Hebron in Genesis is described using
(MQ.
· The place called Hebron in Judges and Samuel is
described using (LH or HR.
· Based on your reading, these descriptions are incompatible (i.e.
‘outside Genesis’, they are not used of the
same site).
· Alter suggests that Genesis is wrong in its
description.
· You postulate that Genesis is describing
a different place of a similar name.
· This is important to you because it fits with
your wider thought on reading the patriarchal narratives.
It’s good that you want to have a conversation. But you’re starting this
one, so you
need to tell others what it’s about.
You actually put the question ‘Are Hebron and Hebron the
same Hebron?’ after 2,158 of the 3,388 words you’ve so far said on this
subject,
and only in your third post. You were
clearly heading there all along, so it would have helped if you had asked it
up front - at the very least, at the
end of the first post (after your first 930 words). It’s a lot easier to
have a conversation if
you get to the point sooner.
By the way, you have left open some rhetorical holes, if not
logical ones. I haven't looked where you've looked, so I don’t know if
Genesis
routinely uses geographical descriptors differently from the rest of the
Tanakh,
or from the rest of the Torah itself. If it does, that
would account for your data as well as Alter’s explanation or yours does.
You have said “*leaving Genesis aside for a moment*,
there is not a single place that the Bible describes as being both (MQ and
either (LH or HR.” That makes me wonder,
where else does (MQ appear in odd ways in
Genesis? What other geographical
descriptors are used strangely in Genesis?
Alan Wood
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Thank you, Kirk.
Fred Putnam
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Kirk Lowery
<empirical.humanist AT gmail.com>wrote:
> Friends,
>
> We've reached an impasse here discussing Blau in general terms. In order
> to go forward, please cite Blau (pro and con) in specific statements or
> assertions that he makes -- in a new thread.
>
> Or don't discuss Blau. :-)
>
> Blessings,
>
> Kirk
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[b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place",
JimStinehart, 01/03/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place",
JimStinehart, 01/04/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place", George Athas, 01/04/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place", JimStinehart, 01/05/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place",
Alan Wood, 01/05/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place", K Randolph, 01/06/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] (MQ: "Deep Place", JimStinehart, 01/06/2012
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