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- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
- To: klriley AT alphalink.com.au
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:02:04 EDT
Kevin Riley:
You wrote: “What does a 'vanishing yod' have to do with the presence of an
aleph? I don't see why the occasional loss of a Y leads you to assume the
aleph must therefore be a vowel. And why would Hebrew represent any vowel
by
(Y? Is there any evidence at all that Biblical Hebrew ever represented
vowels with digraphs?”
I myself had thought that all Semitic words in the Hebrew Bible that begin
with )YL are plays on “mighty”, as I said in my first post on this thread.
I also had thought that for such words, the yod could always vanish,
because )L and )YL are alternative ways to spell Hebrew words that are plays
on “
mighty” [and might possibly be different ways to spell the true vowel A].
But though not expressly so stated, it appears that scholars view the word
that means “deer” or “stag” completely differently. That word in Hebrew
looks like all the other words of this type: )YL. But apparently scholars
see
that word as having a true consonantal yod, and as being derived from a
completely different set of cognates than most all other Hebrew words that
begin
with )YL. For this one Hebrew word, unlike other Hebrew words of this
type, scholars point to the following cognates: Syriac for “deer” is
’iyyala,
Assyrian for “deer” is ya(‘a)lu, and Akkadian for “deer” or “stag” is
ayyalu. [More ambiguous is Ugaritic, where “deer” is ’yl.]
I had thought that )YL when used in this sense meant the “mightiest” adult
male deer, the stag. But scholars apparently see )YL when used in this
sense as not necessarily having anything to do whatsoever with the concept of
“
mighty”, but rather as having its own set of unique cognates, all of which
have a true consonantal yod. Note that my list of 6 words of this type in
HALOT where the yod could vanish did not include the word for “deer” [though
I did mention that HALOT shows different cognates for “deer”].
The famous Aijalon seems to have been pronounced with a consonantal yod as
its own separate syllable, based on Amarna Letter EA 273: 20. Accordingly,
perhaps the famous Aijalon is based on “deer”, rather than being based on “
mighty one” and “mighty tree” or “oak”. But the nearby tiny Aijalon/Elon
[Joshua 19: 43, as opposed to Joshua 19: 42], though spelled the same as the
famous Aijalon, may have had a different pronunciation and a different
underlying meaning. The name of the tiny Aijalon/Elon, unlike the name of
the
famous Aijalon, may have been pronounced with a vowel yod, and as such may
have had the vanishing yod, with its underlying meaning being “mighty one
place
” or “mighty tree place” or “oak tree city”. One of Jacob’s grandsons,
and a Hebrew Judge, and perhaps even the city referenced at Joshua 19: 33,
may have been named after the tiny Aijalon/Elon, which would neatly explain
why the yod vanishes at Genesis 46: 14 and Joshua 19: 33 and Judges 12: 12,
even though the yod was there at Judges 12: 11. The tiny Aijalon/Elon, which
I see as being the Patriarchs’ favorite place to sojourn in southern
Canaan, was spelled “Aijalon”, but apparently [unlike the famous Aijalon] was
pronounced “Elon”. So to honor the pronunciation [but not the spelling] of
the Patriarchs’ favorite place to sojourn, the “vanishing yod” applies to the
spellings of this name at Genesis 46: 14 and Joshua 19: 33 and Judges 12:
12.
I am trying to understand why in most cases, but apparently not in all
cases, the yod could vanish in Hebrew words of this type that in full form
begin
)YL. Do you agree that when )YL means “deer” or “stag”, it has a unique
etymology, an etymology that may have nothing to do with the concept of “
mighty”? If so, then is the word )YL for “deer” the rare case where the yod
can n-e-v-e-r vanish, unlike virtually all other Hebrew words that I had
thought were of this same general type? When )YL means “deer”, it is
pronounced with a true consonantal yod; it can never be spelled )L, and it
can
never be pronounced with a vowel yod or without the yod being pronounced.
Although )YL meaning “deer” looks like a lot of other Hebrew words that begin
)YL, in fact it’s unique. It can never have a vanishing yod, because it has
different cognates than Hebrew words that are based on the concept of “mighty
”. Do you agree?
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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[b-hebrew] Mighty,
JimStinehart, 05/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Kevin Riley, 05/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Yigal Levin, 05/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Kevin Riley, 05/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
jimstinehart, 05/09/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty, Kevin Riley, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
jimstinehart, 05/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Kevin Riley, 05/09/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Yigal Levin, 05/09/2011
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
JimStinehart, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
dwashbur, 05/10/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty, Isaac Fried, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
dwashbur, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/10/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
JimStinehart, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
jimstinehart, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
jimstinehart, 05/12/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty, Yigal Levin, 05/12/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
jimstinehart, 05/12/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
jimstinehart, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Isaac Fried, 05/11/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] Mighty,
Kevin Riley, 05/09/2011
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