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["Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>]

Dear Kenneth,

That's about "it." :))))

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kenneth greifer 
  To: bjwvmw AT com-pair.net ; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 44:15


  Bryant,
   
  I think you are saying. He makes a god (from a tree) and worships it, and 
he makes it (a tree)  into an idol and bows, so both are saying the same 
thing.
   
  I guess I wasn't sure what the "it" referred to.
   
  Kenneth Greifer 
  > From: bjwvmw AT com-pair.net
  > To: greifer AT hotmail.com; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 44:15
  > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:58:13 -0800
  > 
  > Dear Kenneth,
  > 
  > The passage of Isaiah 44:9-20 is an expository sermon on the making of 
idols by
  > those who have turned from the Living God to "ones of their own making." 
The
  > passage is divided into 2 sections:
  > 44:9-11 The nothingness and shamefulness of making idols.
  > 44:12-17 The process of making idols and their worship
  > 44:18-20 The condemnation of these idols.
  > 
  > Note that 44:14 tells of the man who cuts down a cedar or other type of 
hardwood
  > and nourishes it as a woodman would do. Then he describes how the very 
tree that
  > is used by the man for fuel for heating, cooking, etc., is the same tree 
that
  > the man makes into an idol. Vss 18-20 condemns this practice.
  > 
  > 44:15 (RSV) a Then it becomes fuel for man;
  > b he takes apart of it and warms himself,
  > c he kindles a fire and bakes bread;
  > d also he makes a god and worships it,
  > e he makes it a graven image and falls down before it.
  > 
  > You will notice the parallelism is being used in this verse (that is why 
I broke
  > it into clauses). 44:15a is paralleled by 15b & c; while 15d & e parallel 
one
  > another. "make a god" = "make a graven image" ; "worships it" = "falls 
down
  > before it." These two clauses are used by Isaiah to show how the 1st, 2nd 
and
  > 3rd Commandments were broken by Judah. I will let you make the modern
  > application.
  > 
  > Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "kenneth greifer" <greifer AT hotmail.com>
  > To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:19 PM
  > Subject: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 44:15
  > 
  > 
  > >
  > > I don't understand Isaiah 44:15. It says he makes a god and worships, 
and then
  > if I understand correctly it says he makes it an idol and bows to it or 
to them.
  > If he made a god (an idol), why would he make it (the idol) an idol. Is 
that
  > what it is saying? I guess making a god means to make an idol, unless it 
could
  > mean to make up a non-physical god and then to make it an idol.
  > >
  > > I don't know if anyone will be willing to answer this question, but I 
will ask
  > anyway. Please do not answer me off-list. If you don't want to answer me
  > on-list, please don't answer me.
  > >
  > > Kenneth Greifer
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