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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: "R. Lehmann" <lehmann AT uni-mainz.de>
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam (was: Song of Songs 1:12)
  • Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:29:03 -0500

It is crystal clear to me that LE-OLAM is 'forever', yet it has nothing to do, in my opinion, with hiding. In Eccl. 3:11, HA-OLAM is rendered by King James as "the world", giving rise to the later use of OLAM in the sense of 'universe'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:30 AM, R. Lehmann wrote:

For olam, see:

Herbert Niehr, Zur Semantik von nordwestsemitisch ˓lm als 'Unterwelt' und 'Grab', in: Ana šadî Labnani lu allik, Festschrift Wiolfgang Röllig, Neukirchen 1997, p. 295-305, esp. 295

and what is written on the prepositional construction possibilities of olam by Ernst Jenni in THAT II, 1979, 228-243, esp. 229.

Consider also the meaning and function of b-olam in the Ahirom sarcophagus inscription:
Reinhard G. Lehmann, Die Inschrift(en) des A˛ırΩm-Sarkophags und die Schachtinschrift des Grabes v in Jbeil (Byblos), Mainz: Zabern 2005 (Forschungen zur phönizisch-punischen und zyprischen Plastik, hg. von Renate Bol, II.1. Dynastensarkophage mit szenischen Reliefs aus Byblos und Zypern Teil I.2), p. 27-30.

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 23:28:25 -0500
From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
To: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam (was: Song of
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I am sorry, but in my humble opinion, "proto-Semitic" is a legend. A
very deep Ayin may indeed come close to a G or even an R.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Dec 9, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Uri Hurwitz wrote:


Sorry, these are two different roots. The first is
indeed (LM.
The second is derived from the root GHayin LM.
The proto-Semitic Ghayin was written already in the
ancient paleo-Hebrew script with the same letter that
served the letter (YIN.

Compare the name of the city (azah. To this day
the ancient pronounciation is preserved in the English
spelling Ghaza, and, of course, in normal Arabic
spoken and written use where it retains a separate letter.

Uri Hurwitz Greay Neck, NY





As I have already observed the word OLAM ( ???? ) is of the root
(LM ( ??? ), which certainly can not mean 'hidden, secrete,
conceal'. To wit: this is also the root of ELEM and ALMAH ( ???,
???? ), 'young adults', which are not hidden, and have nothing to
hide.

Isaac Fried, Boston University





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