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- From: James Christian <jc.bhebrew AT googlemail.com>
- To: Joseph Justiss <jljustiss AT msn.com>
- Cc: biblical hebrew list <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] BH Verbal System (Joseph Justiss)
- Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:19:50 +0000
Sure moving from form to function is the kind of thing that is needed in
order to do the work of a translator. But the question is how many functions
align to the forms? It is clearly not a 1 to 1 mapping but what tools can we
use to establish how many functions there are, what their qualities are and
which indicators identify them?
James Christian
2010/1/31 Joseph Justiss <jljustiss AT msn.com>
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> It is time for me to make some more comments for clarification.
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> 1. In my original post Sailhamer and Scneider do not use the word "tense"
> to refer to verbal forms with built in time reference. They just use it
> because of convenience to refer to the various verbal forms encountered in
> BH's morphology.
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> 2. Sailhamer would agree that the wayyiqtol does not have past reference.
> Their contention is that when a BH author wants to construct a narrative and
> signal to his reader that he is refering to events which are no longer
> present within the domain of the author-reader context he uses the wayyiqtol
> verb form/"tense" to generate a narrative text. When that same author wants
> to provide information that is background to the current narrative, or wants
> to refer back to an event on a previous wayyiqtol chain he uses qatal verbal
> forms.
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> This system is an attempt to explain the generation of Hebrew narrative
> texts moving from form to function. I think it is worthy of serious
> consideration because of its ability to explain texts and because after
> centuries of studies the best and brightest minds in the field of Hebrew
> grammar still lack serious consensus as to the function of the verbal forms.
> Perhaps this is not in spite of our methodology, but precisely because of
> our methodology. Let's look for a better more promising methodology. I think
> it will come from "form to function" approaches and text-linguistics which
> limits itself to text immanent data and goes beyond sentence level analysis.
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> Joseph Justiss
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[b-hebrew] BH Verbal System (Joseph Justiss),
Joseph Justiss, 01/31/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] BH Verbal System (Joseph Justiss), James Christian, 01/31/2010
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