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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is 41:8
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:26:04 -0500

The internal pronouns היא and הוא as represented by the vowels I U O E, are universal. Gender and number are added later. For instance:
שבור = שב-הוא-ר he (it) is broken
שבורה = שב-הוא-ר-היא she is broken
שבורים = שב-הוא-ר-הם they are broken
The internal הוא refers to the thing being at the state described by the root שבר

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jan 17, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Pere Porta wrote:

Isaac Fried wrote:
It appears to me that the word contains two personal pronouns, one internal, O ( הוא ), for the performer (here ABRAHAM) of the act אהב , and one external, IY (אני ), for the beneficiary of the act, here the God of Israel.
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Dear Isaac,
as regards the internal pronoun, O = HW), would you say that where the plural is dealt with it would also be HW) = he?

Samples: Ezr 7:28 (6th. word); 2Ch 22:4 (11th word)...

I think that here it would rather mean "they"... would it not?
If so, then would the pronoun O = HW) mean both "he" and "they"?


Hearty,

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)

On Jan 16, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Pere Porta wrote:

Hi.
The last word in Is 41:8, )HBY, what does it really mean?:
1. the person I love
2. or rather the person who loves me ("my lover")

Of course these are different things.
Can this pattern have either meaning depending on the context?
In other words: is the final Y the subject of )HB or rather its object?

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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