Biblical Hebrew Forum

[davedonnelly1 <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>]

Yitzhak Sapir wrote:

"Whether you like it or not, Yahweh is a result of following up on Greek
Iabe."
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William Smith's 1863 "A Dictionary of the Bible" gives credit to Gesenius
for proposing the Hebrew punctuation [yod-patah-heh-shewa-waw-segol-heh]
which is preserved in the Brown-Driver-Briggs lexicon of 1905 A.D. 
Gesenius was influenced by "IABE" when he proposed this Hebrew
punctuation of YHWH. 

The critical edition by Otto Stählin (1905), of Clement Alexandria's 
Stromata Book V, Chapter 6:34 gives the Greek Transcription Iaoue,
although an 11th century Greek Codex (Codex Laurentianus V 3),  preserves
the Greek Spelling "Iaou". Iaoue supports "Yahweh", Iaou does not.

Dave Donnelly
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Subject: [b-hebrew] Genesis 2:8 simple past or pluperfect?
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The King James reads

"And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put
the man whom he had formed."

The New International Version reads

"Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there
he put the man he had formed."

It is argued that the presence of the waw consecutive indicates that
the planting of Eden was temporally successive to the creation of Adam
and not prior as the pluperfect in the NIV could allow.

(1) Can anyone explain from the text itself the rational behind some
translators prefering the pluperfect?
(2) Does the use of the pluperfect necessarily impy a paragraph break?

Many thanks,

Ralph Candlish
London