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  • From: James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk>
  • To: JimStinehart AT aol.com
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Robert Alter on Joseph
  • Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:25:36 +0100

Jim,

there is no mention of any 'historical bronze age' in the texts. It just tells us that it happened after the flood. Your placing these accounts in a 'historical bronze age' is your own devices. Not something that exists in the texts.

Also, nothing in the text presents Sarah giving birth at such an age as a normal event. It is quite clearly due to YHWH's intervention. A gift from YHWH. That's the whole point of the story.

James Christian

Quoting JimStinehart AT aol.com:


Karl:

Here is your own theory of the ages of people in the Patriarchal narratives:

“Is this history or not? If history, then this is evidence that for whatever


reason, people’s lives have been getting shorter.”

In the historical Bronze Age? Karl, are you serious? We have overwhelming
historical evidence to the contrary. You are saying that in the historical
Bronze Age (after any Flood), there were people who lived to the age to
which Abraham’s father Terakh is portrayed as living at Genesis 11: 31:
namely, the age of 205 years (where, in your view, “years” means 12-month years)?

Are you serious about that, Karl? And women did like Sarah is portrayed as
doing, in your view, namely gave birth at age 90 years, in 12-month years?
In the historical Bronze Age?

Karl, if that’s your belief, then we’ve got nothing more to discuss on
this subject.

Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois

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