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[b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations of bgdkpt
- From: Gabe Eisenstein <gabe AT cascadeaccess.com>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations of bgdkpt
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:15:19 -0800
Traffic seems low so I thought I'd sneak in a dumb beginner's question -- actually two related questions representing areas of my ignorance.
The first concerns the differences in consonantal pronunciation between Biblical Hebrew and what I know as "Sephardic" and "Ashkenazic". (For simplicity I would like to sidestep other intermediate possibilities of medieval or Mishnaic Hebrew, but you can tell me about them too if you like.) I know that one example of the three forms is T=th,t or s. And I know or think I know that BH w became v in S & A.
The second concerns the rules for reading hard vs. soft b/g/d/k/p/t when you are looking at text without points (dagesh). About all I know is that an initial letter is (always? usually?) hard. Are the rules complete, so that the dagesh is just an aid for people like me; or is there some ambiguity that makes the dagesh necessary?
[While you're at it you can explain to me what the hard/soft difference sounds like in the case of gimel and daleth.]
I found a chart online that seemed to suggest that some of the hard/soft differences didn't exist in BH, but emerged later. Is that right?
Two examples that have me puzzled are:
Rabbi Aqiba vs. Rabbi Aqiva -- which one is right in the sense of what he called himself?
shabath (shabas, shabat) -- why isn't there an analogous form shavath? (I'm sure it has something to do with the "doubling" of the b, but I don't understand how you know that it's "doubled" when the text only has one.)
Thanks,
Gabe Eisenstein
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[b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations of bgdkpt,
Gabe Eisenstein, 02/16/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations of bgdkpt, K Randolph, 02/17/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations ofbgdkpt, Kevin Riley, 02/17/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations of bgdkpt, Yitzhak Sapir, 02/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations ofbgdkpt,
Yigal Levin, 02/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations ofbgdkpt,
Yitzhak Sapir, 02/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciationsofbgdkpt,
Yigal Levin, 02/17/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciationsofbgdkpt, K Randolph, 02/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciationsofbgdkpt,
Yigal Levin, 02/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations ofbgdkpt,
Yitzhak Sapir, 02/17/2009
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Beginner questions about hard/soft pronunciations of bgdkpt, Gabe Eisenstein, 02/18/2009
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