Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>]

Doug,
> > > In Rom 9:24-27 Paul quotes Hosea 1:11 as to the gentile inclusion and
> > > which refers to the "sons of the living God" , is Paul , do you think
> > > , saying that the third child Lo-Ammi who represents these sons of the
> > > living God is the gentile inclusion. And who represents  the "My
> > > people  and Mercy is shown"  of Hos 1:1, could they be the "sons of
> > > the living God" and thus the church.
> >
> > HH: Paul is redirecting OT words that in their original context had a
> > different meaning. He is using them in a literary way. In Hosea the
> > words are talking about the northern kingdom of Israel:
> >
> > Hosa 1:6  She conceived again and gave birth to a daughter, and the LORD
> > said to him: Name her No Compassion, for I will no longer have
> > compassion on the house of Israel. I will certainly take them away. 7
> > But I will have compassion on the house of Judah, and I will deliver
> > them by the LORD their God. I will not deliver them by bow, sword, or
> > war, or by horses and cavalry. 8  After Gomer had weaned No Compassion,
> > she conceived and gave birth to a son. 9 Then the LORD said: Name him
> > Not My People, for you are not My people, and I will not be your God.
> > 10  Yet the number of the Israelites will be like the sand of the sea,
> > which cannot be measured or counted. And in the place where they were
> > told: You are not My people, they will be called: Sons of the living
> > God. 11 And the Judeans and the Israelites will be gathered together.
> > They will appoint for themselves a single ruler, and go up from the
> > land. For the day of Jezreel will be great.
> >
> > HH: Note that verse 11 distinguishes between the Judeans and the
> > Israelites. The Israelites are those in the northern kingdom. They will
> > not be a people because in 722 B.C. the northern kingdom came to an end
> > and the people were taken into captivity by the Assyrians, who
> > transported them to other nations, never to return to Israel. Hosea
> > prophesied in the last days of the northern kingdom, during Jeroboam's
> > reign (Hos 1:1), or some time within 793-753 B.C.
So could that mean we are descendants of the 10 tribes , or are you 
saying there is no link , doug belot

HH: I am saying there is no link. Paul is using words written about one 
situation to describe a different one to which the words apply. Those 
who were not a people will become a people.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard