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- From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida
- Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:48:55 +0200
Karl,
Perhaps it went the other way: CYD first meant "hunting" (not as a sport but as a way of providing food), and then the noun Cayyid took on the general meaning of "provisions".
Yigal Levin
----- Original Message ----- From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida
Yigal:
If it truly is TsYD the word meant in Beth-saida, I see the possibility that
it started as a place preparing food for the fishermen and other boatmen.
Possibly a family business. Then the place grew over time as other fishing
related business located there.
The word has as its basic root the meaning of getting provisions, such as
for a journey. It is used that way in Joshua 9. See also Nehemiah 13:15.
These stories also shows that hunting was not a sport, rather a way of
getting provisions.
Karl W. Randolph.
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>wrote:
It is often assumed that Beth-saida means "House of the hunters", with the_______________________________________________
form being Aramaic rather than Hebrew. Assuming the site to be on or near
the Sea of Galilee, the "hunters" would actually be fishermen. "Sidon", the
well-know Pheonician port, would be dirived from the same word.
Rami Arav, who for years has been excavating a major site just north of the
Sea of Galilee which he identifies as Bethsaida, has also suggested that
the
"Ziddim Zer" (the Z here stands for Sade, as in Beth-saida and in Sidon)
mentioned in Josh 19:35 in the inheretance of Naphtali, is the Iron Age
form
of the same name, perhaps originally "Hacayyadim".
Yigal Levin
----- Original Message -----
From: <JBarach AT aol.com>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:39 AM
Subject: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida
>
> BHaverim --
>
> What does the name "Bethsaida" mean? "Beth," obviously, means > "house."
> But
> what about the "Saida"? I'm not even sure what the Hebrew root word
here
> might be. One commentary I have says it means "House of Provisioning"
> (Austin
> Farrer) and another says "House of Fishermen" (John Donahue & Daniel
> Harrington) -- and all the rest that I have say nothing about the
meaning
> of the name
> at all.
>
> I'd be glad to hear what you think. (I ask this on the B-Hebrew list,
> even
> though "Bethsaida" appears only in the Greek, because it's obvious a
> Hebrew
> name. Hope this isn't a problem.)
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> John
>
>
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida,
Yigal Levin, 02/01/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida,
K Randolph, 02/01/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida,
Yigal Levin, 02/01/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida, George Athas, 02/01/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida, K Randolph, 02/01/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida,
Yigal Levin, 02/01/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Bethsaida,
K Randolph, 02/01/2009
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