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- From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew grammar books
- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:34:08 -0400
On page 82 Jouon and Muraoka say concerning the dagesh "dirimens" that "The gemination, together with the resultant shewa, produces something like a separation between the syllables". It is not clear to me where they got this "gemination", or what "something like" is supposed to mean, but isn't the dagesh in the N of (INBEY and in the Q of (IQBEI just a punctuation hint?
On page 79 they have or us even "spontaneous gemination", supposedly occurring frequently after the vowel A as in ADOM -> )ADUMM-AH, GAMAL -> GMALL-IM, (AQRAB -> (AQRABB-IM, $APAN -> $PANN-IM, QATAN -> QTANN- AH, QTANN-IM, HADAS -> HADASS-IM, ZMAN -> ZMANN-IM, )AGAM -> )AGAMM- IM. But what is the purpose of this dagesh, to cue spontaneity?
On page 78 they have this mathematical gem: "From Biblical Aramaic, in which there is virtual gemination as in Hebrew, it emerges that this gemination was not null, but a semi-gemination, a length of intermediate degree."
It is also not clear to me how a gemination can be REQUIRED by the VERY NATURE of the [verbal] FORM.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
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From: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s AT rad.com>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:51:18 +0300
Thread-Topic: [b-hebrew] who called Israel rebellious ?
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Moses said "we", suggesting to people that the water was brought forth by=himself and Aaron rather than God.
Vadim
I completely agree with what you are saying,
but this relates to the question as to why the sin was so serious.
I think that we see God hinting to Moses ahead of time NOT to fall into thi=
s trap.
In previous cases God tells him to bring MTK =3D your staff,
but here he says HMTH =3D THE staff.
By saying HMTH God is trying to tell Moses,
once the most humble of men, but after 40 years in charge apparently less s=
o,
that the staff of leadership isn't promised to him for all time.
However, the point I was trying to make was about Aaron.
If it was Moses who said "we", is Aaron's sin only "in his heart" ?
Would God punish him so severely for sinning in thought ?
Yaakov (J) Stein
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[b-hebrew] Hebrew grammar books,
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