b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Biblical Hebrew Forum
List archive
[b-hebrew] Canaan as the Original Homeland of the Hebrews: Part I
- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: [b-hebrew] Canaan as the Original Homeland of the Hebrews: Part I
- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:46:23 EDT
Yigal Levin:
You wrote:
1. You wrote: “You see, it does say that Terah was on his way to Canaan.”
You and I agree 100% on that.
2. You wrote: “It does NOT say why he was on his way to Canaan. The idea
that he was on his way BACK HOME to Canaan is entirely your invention. Maybe
he
was out of work and there was work in Canaan? Maybe he had bought a
retirement
condo in Ashdod? Maybe he was ultimately headed for Egypt? Maybe God told him
to go? The author does not say that he was not originally from Canada,
either. The details that are
missing were apparently not important to the author - that does not give us
licence to "fill in the gaps" however we want to.”
Now we’re finally getting somewhere. Let’s compare the various theories as
to why Terakh was on his way to Canaan.
(i) “Maybe he was out of work and there was work in Canaan?”
Is that consistent with Lot coming out of Egypt rich? Genesis 13: 5 Why are
you fighting the text so hard? Lot comes out of Egypt rich. That’s because
Lot’s party had brought valuable “rekuwsh”/resh-kaf-vav-shin/“substance”/“
valuables” at Genesis 12: 5 from Mesopotamia, which is the same word that is
used to describe the valuable “loot” that was snatched by various parties at
Genesis 14: 11, 12, 16, 21.
It would not make any sense for Lot to have valuable rekuwsh, which makes Lot
a rich man coming out of Egypt, if Terakh “was out of work and there was work
in Canaan”.
(ii) “Maybe he had bought a retirement condo in Ashdod?”
Ashdod is located in Canaan. How on earth could a man indigenous to
Mesopotamia, who did not have a single relative who had ever set foot in
Canaan (your
view, not mine), buy a place in Ashdod, Canaan while in Mesopotamia?
Moreover, that flies in the face of the text’s insistence that the Patriarchs
were unable to buy land in Canaan. Abraham had to pay a king’s ransom to buy
a burial plot for Sarah.
No way.
(iii) “Maybe he was ultimately headed for Egypt?”
How can you so consistently disregard what the text so plainly says?
“And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran, his son's son, and
Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with
them
from Ur of [Kasdim], to go into the land of Canaan….” Genesis 11: 31
Terakh was heading for Canaan, not for Egypt.
As set forth in a post answering questions raised by Tory Thorpe, Abraham is
divinely guided by YHWH to go to Egypt. But that certainly was n-o-t
Terakh’
s plan.
Why is it that every one of your theories of the case contradicts what the
text so clearly says?
(iv) “Maybe God told him to go?”
There you go again. The text presents YHWH as speaking to Abraham in Harran,
not to Terakh. The text simply will not support these theories of yours.
(v) “The author does not say that he was not originally from Canada, either.”
If Terakh was from Canada, why would Terakh want to go to Canaan? You’re not
making sense here.
(vi) Terakh was indigenous to northern Canaan, and he had been on an overly
long, one-time caravan trip to Mesopotamia. Terakh was desperately trying to
make it back home to Canaan. But unfortunately for Terakh, old Terakh became
too infirm at Harran to make it all the long way back to Canaan.
Note that your five theories of the case make no sense and are directly
contradicted by what the text says.
My theory of the case, by sharp contrast, fits everything in the text
perfectly.
Moreover, I think I must have missed the part of your answer where you
explain why the text never once refers to “am”/people/ancestors regarding Ur,
Harran or Mesopotamia. If the text is trying to tell us that all of
Abraham’s “am”
/people/ancestors came from Mesopotamia (your view, not mine), why then is it
that the text never says that? Why does the text insist on always using the
rare word “molodet” in referring to Abraham’s relatives in the context of Ur,
Harran and Mesopotamia?
Why fight the text? The only sensible explanation of what the text says is
that Terakh was indigenous to Canaan, and was trying to make it back home to
Canaan, but became infirm at Harran and for that reason, and only for that
reason, never made it back home to Canaan.
Why try so hard to make the text say something that it does not say? We know
from secular history that the Hebrews were indigenous to Canaan, not to
Mesopotamia. The author of the Patriarchal narratives knew that, and he
assumes
that his audience knows and understands that. The author never imagined how
JEPD and modern scholars would misinterpret his fine composition.
The author of the Patriarchal narratives was proud of the fact that his
people were indigenous to Canaan, and did not try to hide that historical
fact.
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars.
(http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
-
[b-hebrew] Canaan as the Original Homeland of the Hebrews: Part I,
JimStinehart, 06/25/2008
- Re: [b-hebrew] Canaan as the Original Homeland of the Hebrews: Part I, Yigal Levin, 06/25/2008
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [b-hebrew] Canaan as the Original Homeland of the Hebrews: Part I, JimStinehart, 06/25/2008
Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.