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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 30:14 description of a metal smith?
- From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 30:14 description of a metal smith?
- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:06:40 +0000
On 10/30/07, K Randolph wrote:
> GB), what does it mean? Is this a salt marsh or river delta as
> indicated by Ezekiel 47:11?
According to HALOT, this is a cistern, related probably (in the
very distant past) to the root GBH/GBY "to collect." The root X&P
is related probably to Ug xsp "to scoop, pour water" and Arabic
xasufa "to pour out water". HALOT cites Reymond in Vetus
Testamentum 7:203ff. The word gb? is further related to the root
gb, Mishnaic Hebrew / Aramaic (including Biblical Aramaic gob),
gob?, Akkadian gubbu cistern (a West Semitic loan), Arabic
jubb, jaubat, Ethiopic geb "well", plural gevim as a pit/ditch in
2 Kings 3:16, Jer 14:3 (contrasted with water), 39:10
> > YWCRYM KTWT one thing that typifies metal work is repeated tapping
> > with a hammer to mold the metal into shape. I have done this with both
> > iron and copper, and it is fun to see the shape come out. In both
> > metals, high heat is needed, which was aided by the use of bellows
> > which, in ancient times, were often made with skin bags NBL (modern
> > smithies use a fan). Do these two words refer to the action of
> > smithing?
NBL is a storage jar, not necessarily made of skin or leather. In Mishnaic
Hebrew it seems to mean only a leather bottle. In Lam 4:2 nbly xr& "clay
jars".
XR& is clay. It can be explicitly broken -- see Lev 11:33, and can be
earthen -- see Is 45:9.
Thus the first part of Is 30:14 is actually quite at home in the standard
translation (using the JPS translation here) "And He shall break it as a
potter's vessel is broken, breaking it in pieces without sparing."
> > MKTT is this the word for smithy?
HALOT translates as a "fragment." This is related to the word ktt "to beat,
crush fine." While HALOT translates "fragment" I would suggest that a part
of a potter's workshop might be discussed, if one views the form as a locative
noun (krt / mkrtt in Mesha is actually the most immediate thing that comes
to mind). That is, it might be the area in the workshop where sherds are
thrown.
Yitzhak Sapir
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 30:14 description of a metal smith?,
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