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- From: "kenneth greifer" <greifer AT hotmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] chalal
- Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:23:32 +0000
I thought Isaiah's prophecies were poetic also. In English, a lot of it sounds poetic.
Kenneth Greifer
From: "biblical hebrew" <jcr.bhebrew AT gmail.com>
To: "kenneth greifer" <greifer AT hotmail.com>
CC: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] chalal
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:55:12 +0100
Hi,
my instinctual response to your suggestion would be that most verbs can be
used in this way - with a literal meaning or a poetically figurative usage.
One thing to bear in mind, though, is that you quote Psalm usage which is,
by definition, poetic and so carries a much higher probability of displaying
the kind of figurative usage you suggest.
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On 9/9/07, kenneth greifer <greifer AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> How do you know if Isaiah 53:5 "he is pierced from our sin" is meant
> literally? "He is crushed from our transgressions" is not taken literally.
>
> In Psalm 109:22 it says "my heart is wounded (pierced)" (the same verb),
> but
> the psalm writer was not stabbed in the heart.
>
> Maybe "pierced" was like "crushed" and not meant to be taken literally.
>
> Psalm 38:4 says the psalm writer is sick. Ps. 38:3 says G-d's arrows have
> descended into him. Maybe that would be like being pierced by suffering,
> even though it does not say "pierced". Ps. 38:5 says the burden is too
> heavy
> for him. Maybe that is like being crushed by his suffering. Ps.38:14-15
> says
> the person is silent. This all sounds like someone who is acquainted with
> disease, crushed, pierced, and does not open his mouth like the person in
> Isaiah 53. Maybe this is how suffering was described in Biblical times.
>
> Kenneth Greifer
>
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[b-hebrew] chalal,
kenneth greifer, 09/09/2007
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biblical hebrew, 09/09/2007
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