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[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

"....E.g. Arabic Yaktubu = Ya-KT-TU-BU -four beats, one per 
consonant.  Salaam = Sa-la-a-m -4 beats = one beat per
   consonant released 
and one for the long vowel...."
   
     Sorry, I don't know what you mean. In your first example 
  there  are three syllables: YAK -TU- BU. No such thing as "KT".
  In the second example two syllables SA -LAM, the second with a
  long vowel ,and therefore transliterated sometimes with two 'A' s
   
  Uri Hurwitz



       
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Subject: [b-hebrew]  The root CN and the word CINCENET
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The Hebrew word CINCENET, 'basket', is from the doubled root CN. This =20=

root is a member of the root family DN, ZN, TN, SN, CN, $N. =46rom the =20=

root $N Hebrew derives the word $EN, 'tooth', and from CN it derives =20
the word CEN or CNIN, 'thorn, a plat tooth', see Numbers 33:55
=D7=9C=D6=B0=D7=A9=D7=82=D6=B4=D7=9B=D6=BC=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=9D =
=D7=91=D6=BC=D6=B0=D7=A2=D6=B5=D7=99=D7=A0=D6=B5=D7=99=D7=9B=D6=B6=D7=9D =
=20
=D7=95=D6=B0=D7=9C=D6=B4=D7=A6=D6=B0=D7=A0=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=A0=D6=B4=D7=9D =
=D7=91=D6=BC=D6=B0=D7=A6=D6=B4=D7=93=D6=BC=D6=B5=D7=99=D7=9B=D6=B6=D7=9D
Doubling SN, Hebrew produces the word SANSAN, 'branch, tooth-like =20
leaf, bough, bunch-stem', see Songs 7:9
=D7=90=D6=B8=D7=9E=D6=B7=D7=A8=D6=B0=D7=AA=D6=BC=D6=B4=D7=99 =
=D7=90=D6=B6=D7=A2=D6=B1=D7=9C=D6=B6=D7=94 =D7=91=D6=B0=D7=AA=D6=B8=D7=9E=D6=
=B8=D7=A8 =D7=90=D6=B9=D7=97=D6=B2=D7=96=D6=B8=D7=94 =20
=D7=91=D6=BC=D6=B0=D7=A1=D6=B7=D7=A0=D6=B0=D7=A1=D6=B4=D7=A0=D6=BC=D6=B8=D7=
=99=D7=95
Thus a CINCENET is possibly a SINSENET, a container made of SANSANIM, =20=

a kind of raphia work. It is possible that ZAN, from the root ZN =20
means also 'a plant, a stalk', and that the present ZANIM SHONIM is =20
merely 'different plants', and by analogy 'different sorts', see also =20=

2 chronicles 16:14
=D7=91=D6=BC=D6=B0=D7=A9=D7=82=D6=B8=D7=9E=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=9D =
=D7=95=D6=BC=D7=96=D6=B0=D7=A0=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=9D, =D7=9E=D6=B0=D7=A8=D6=BB=
=D7=A7=D6=BC=D6=B8=D7=97=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=9D =20
=D7=91=D6=BC=D6=B0=D7=9E=D6=B4=D7=A8=D6=B0=D7=A7=D6=B7=D7=97=D6=B7=D7=AA =
=D7=9E=D6=B7=D7=A2=D6=B2=D7=A9=D7=82=D6=B6=D7=94
Related to the root CN is the root QN, from which Hebrew derives the =20
words KANEH, 'reed, stalk' as in Isaiah 19:6
=D7=A7=D6=B8=D7=A0=D6=B6=D7=94 =D7=95=D6=B8=D7=A1=D7=95=D6=BC=D7=A3 =
=D7=A7=D6=B8=D7=9E=D6=B5=D7=9C=D7=95=D6=BC
[SUF is a variant of S(IP], and KANAH, 'plant, sapling', as in Psalms =20=

80:16
=D7=A4=D6=B0=D7=A7=D6=B9=D7=93 =D7=92=D6=BC=D6=B6=D7=A4=D6=B6=D7=9F =
=D7=96=D6=B9=D7=90=D7=AA =D7=95=D6=B0=D7=9B=D6=B7=D7=A0=D6=BC=D6=B8=D7=94 =
=D7=90=D6=B2=D7=A9=D7=81=D6=B6=D7=A8-=20
=D7=A0=D6=B8=D7=98=D6=B0=D7=A2=D6=B8=D7=94 =D7=99=D6=B0=D7=9E=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=
=A0=D6=B6=D7=9A=D6=B8
Also the word *QANQAN, 'pitcher'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University