Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>]

Dear Joseph,
>  
>  
> JW:
> Following is a comparison of the wording of Isaiah 7:14 with Genesis 16:11.  
> Much wording is similar and both are part of a prophecy. The main difference 
> is  16:11 is to a 2nd party. 
>  
> _http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/isa7.pdf_ 
> (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/isa7.pdf) 
>  
> _http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen16.pdf_ 
> (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen16.pdf)  
> (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen38.pdf) 
>  
>   
> 7:14---------------------------------------16:11                      
> הִנָּךְ----------------------------------------הִנֵּה          
> ene----------------------------------------en·k
> behold  ! ---------------------------------behold·you !
>  
> הָעַלְמָה
> e·olme
> the·damsel
>  
> הָרָה--------------------------------------הָרָה
> ere---------------------------------------ere
> pregnant-one------------------------pregnant
>  
> וְיֹלַדְתְּ-----------------------------------וְיֹלֶדֶת
> u·ildth----------------------------------u·ildth
> and·one-giving-birth--------------and·you-give-birth
>  
> בֵּן----------------------------------------בֵּן
> bn---------------------------------------bn
> son-------------------------------------son
>  
> וְקָרָאת---------------------------------וְקָרָאת
> u·qrath-------------------------------u·qrath
> and·she-calls---------------------and·you-call
>  
> שְׁמֹו-----------------------------------שְׁמֹו
> shm·u--------------------------------shm·u
> name-of·him-----------------------name-of·him
>  
>  
>  
> Comparison of 16:11:
>  
> HNH/HNK - Imperative to observe an existing physical condition. I think the  
> context is clear that Hagar was already pregnant and HNK here has a meaning of 
>  "observe". Supports HNH of 7:14 having a similar meaning.
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>                                 
> H(LMH  - No such identification required with direct communication. Supports 
> an  understanding that H(LMH of 7:14 is only needed to help identify to a 3rd  
> person.
>  
> HRH - Let's get basic here. HRH can either be the English "conceive", which  
> is a Verb or the English "pregnant", which is an Adjective. BDB confirms this. 
>  Not that I need BDB to tell me this but I have Faith that BDB is still used 
> in  the Seminary which may carry some weight with some here (pregnant pause).


HH: It is not a verb here because the subject is feminine, and the third 
feminine singular perfect form of the verb HRH is HRHH.

>  
>  
> In polemics I sometimes see someone make a General statement that HRH is an  
> Adjective. They don't realize that their source was an opinion on 7:14. Of  
> course no one here would do that. BDB places 7:14 as an Adjective which is  
> understandable since there is a Noun next to it. Interestingly, Theology prefers  
> the Imperfect Verb here and by an Act of Providence there is no shortage of  
> Christian Translations here with the Imperfect Verb including Professor  
> Holmyard's Holman. BDB does categorize 38:24 and 16:11 as Adjectives but without  a 
> connecting Noun they look like Verbs to me. 
>   


HH: They are not verbs here either, for the same reason.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard