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- From: Tory Thorpe <torythrp AT yahoo.com>
- To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY
- Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:04:58 -0400
On Jul 27, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Steve Miller wrote:
From: Tory Thorpe
HH:
16:11. In the Qumran Isaiah A text the letters are
WQR) or "one shall call."
It should be noted that QR) in 1QIsa is probably to be pointed as the
Qal imperative, "[Ahaz] call" (cf. Isa. viii 3). This agrees with the
emphatic pronoun "you" in v. 16.
Tory Thorpe
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[Steve Miller] Wouldn't that be quite awkward?
Behold, the almah is pregnant and bearing a son, and call his name Immanuel.
If the previous verbs were imperative, then I would expect WQR) also to be
imperative as in Jonah 1:2 & 3:2.
With the previous verbs not being imperative, I could not buy that WQR)
should be imperative, unless you can find an example of a series of
non-imperative verbs followed by vav-<imperative> verb in the Tanach.
It is much more straightforward: "and they shall call his name ...", which
is a common phrase in the Tanach, as in Isa 9:5 (9:6 English).
-Steve Miller
Detroit
It cannot be "and they shall call..." in Isa. vii 14 or xi 5 without an emendation. The MT followed by LXX Sinaiticus and the Targum read "she shall call..." in v. 14. The LXXab, Aquila, Symmachus, Theodotion, and Old Latin read "you shall call..." The verb in 1QIsa can be pointed either as a Pual perfect (cf. Syriac and Vulgate) or as a Qal imperative. The latter makes more sense: the imperatives in v. 11 are directed to Ahaz and the emphatic pronoun in v. 16 means Ahaz. Also, given the abrupt and unannounced transitions in the 2p in the narrative block Isa. vi-viii, if QR) is not what Isaiah wrote in v. 14 it is most likely missing the final consonant because an interpreter thought Ahaz was supposed to name the child: "Look, the young (deflowered) girl is pregnant, and she is about to give birth to a son, and you [Ahaz] are to call his name Immanuel."
Tory Thorpe
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY,
JoeWallack, 07/27/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY, Peter Kirk, 07/27/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY, K Randolph, 07/27/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY, Harold Holmyard, 07/27/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY,
Harold Holmyard, 07/27/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH H()LMY,
Tory Thorpe, 07/27/2007
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