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Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms HebrewText of Jeremiah
- From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms HebrewText of Jeremiah
- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:42:56 +0300
Also remember, that the vocalization of the Babylonian is a standard vocalization of Akkadian used by modern scholars (based on 18th century BCE Babylonian), which does not really reflect they exact way in which the name would have been pronounced by a Chaldean Neo-Babylonian in the 6th century. The same is true for the Hebrew: the consonental spelling in the MT reflects the way the name would have been heard by a 6th century Judahite, but the vocalization is that of 10th century CE Tiberias (albeit reflecting an older tradition).
Think of the name Sargon. The Akkadian spelling of the name is "Sharru-kin", and of course this was the name of the famous king of Akkad (Agade) in the 23rd century BCE. But the "biblical" spelling, which appears only in Isaiah 20:1, is that of his 8th century Assyrian namesake. In Akkadian, the two are spelled the same, but by the 8th century, Assyrians apparently pronounced "Sh" like "S" and their "K" sounded (to a Judahite, at least) more like "G". And so "Sharru-kin" sounded like "Sarugin". Whether the change in vowels also occured in the Assyrian, or whether it happened later in the Hebrew, I do not know off-hand.
Yigal Levin
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Hedrick" <garyh AT cjfm.org>
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms HebrewText of Jeremiah
Although the article does mention a difference in "spelling,"
perhaps it's easier to think of it as a difference in vocalization. In
transliteration, a word in one language is expressed phonetically using
another language's characters. Ideally, it comes out in the other language
sounding at least roughly like it did in the original. But in this case,
there are slight yet distinct differences in vocalization, although the
similarity is close enough to make the match unmistakable (Nebo-Sarsekim vs.
Nabu-sharrussu-ukin).
Gary Hedrick
San Antonio, Texas USA
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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Martin Shields
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:54 AM
To: b-hebrew Hebrew
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text
of Jeremiah
An interesting find, but how could the name not be "spelled
differently" when one is written in Hebrew and the other in Akkadian?
Martin Shields,
Sydney, Australia.
On 12/07/2007, at 3:37 PM, Gary Hedrick wrote:
Listers, here’s an interesting story from today’s issue_______________________________________________
of the
Daily Telegraph in the UK. It suggests that a recent archaeological
discovery from 2,500 years ago may substantiate the existence of a
minor
character mentioned in the Hebrew text of Jeremiah 39. But the
spelling of
the name in the recently-discovered inscription is slightly
different from
the name as it appears in the MT. Interesting report, nonetheless.
Regards
to all.
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[b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah,
Gary Hedrick, 07/12/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah,
Martin Shields, 07/12/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah,
Gary Hedrick, 07/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms HebrewText of Jeremiah, Yigal Levin, 07/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah, Martin Shields, 07/12/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah,
Gary Hedrick, 07/12/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah,
Peter Kirk, 07/12/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah, Peter Kirk, 07/14/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah, Isaac Fried, 07/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] UK Report: Archaeological Find Confirms Hebrew Text of Jeremiah,
Martin Shields, 07/12/2007
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