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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The meaning of TAM in Gen. 25:27
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:38:20 +0000

If you have H.A.L.O.T on pg 1742. It reads b) well behaved, civilised. Gn
25:27, Jacob was... (lived quitely) as opposed to Esau who was... ( a man of
the open country).

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Kelton Graham
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> > For a number of years I have wondered about the translation of TAM
> > describing Jacob in Gen. 25:27. In contrast to Esau, a hunter and man
> > of the field, Jacob is described as being ISH TAM dwelling in tents.
> >
> > Is there justification for translating TAM as:
> > ESV: quiet
> > NET: even-tempered
> > NKJV: mild
> > Tyndale: simple
> > new JPS: mild
>
> Perhaps comparison with Job 1:8 and/or 2:3, ISH TAM W:YF$FR, could help.
>
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RASHI says "Tam" means someone who "is not astute at deceiving"


27. And the youths grew up, and Esau was a man who understood
hunting, a man of the field, whereas Jacob was an innocent man,
dwelling in tents.

And the youths grew up, and Esau was As long as they were small, they
were not recognizable through their deeds, and no one scrutinized
them to determine their characters. As soon as they became thirteen
years old, this one parted to the houses of study, and that one
parted to idol worship. - [From Gen. Rabbah 63:10; Tanchuma, Ki Theze
4]

who understood hunting [He knew how] to trap and to deceive his
father with his mouth and ask him,"Father, how do we tithe salt and
straw?" His father thereby thought that he was scrupulous in his
observance of the commandments (Tanchuma, Toeldoth 8).

a man of the field As its apparent meaning: an idler who hunts beasts
and birds with his bow. - [From Targum Jonathan]

an innocent man He was not an expert in all these [matters]. Like his
heart, so was his mouth. A person who is not astute at deceiving is
called ????, innocent.

dwelling in tents the tent of Shem and the tent of Eber. - [From Gen.
Rabbah 63:10]





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