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[Philip <philipengmann AT yahoo.com>]

Thank you, Peter.
   
  I would also be interested in the AGES of the various ancient translations 
that you have cited below.
   
  Best regards,
   
  Philip

Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org> wrote:
  On 26/04/2007 12:48, Philip wrote:
> Dear Peter, (2 years later), Are the other translations that you cite below 
> complete manuscripts? or only fragments?
> 
> ... If we are looking at translations, why is only the LXX mentioned? It is 
> not the only ancient translation, although it may be the oldest. There are 
> for example a variety of Aramaic (= Targums) and Syriac versions, as well 
> as variant Greek texts, which deserve mention alongside the LXX. The Latin 
> Vulgate is also an important witness because it is known to have been 
> translated from the Hebrew long before the existing MT MSS. There are also 
> Arabic, Ethiopic, Armenian, Coptic etc translations to be considered. -- 
> Peter Kirk
>
> 
Philip, I don't know if all of these ancient translations are complete 
for the whole Hebrew Bible. I'm not sure that there is a complete 
ancient Arabic translation, and I don't think there are complete Greek 
texts apart from what we know as LXX. But I understand Latin (Vulgate), 
Aramaic, Syriac, Ethiopic, Coptic and Armenian to be complete or 
essentially so, preserved by religious communities which continue to use 
them. None of these are "only fragments". Maybe others know the details 
better than me.

-- 
Peter Kirk
E-mail: peter AT qaya.org
Blog: http://www.qaya.org/blog/
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On 4/19/07, Yitzhak Sapir wrote:

> > Finally, on a historical basis is that the Medeo-Persian Empire was the
> > first non-Semitic empire.
>
> There was a Persian empire, not a Medeo-Persian Empire.  Also, there was a
> Mitanni Empire, an Indo-Iranian empire centered in northern Mesopotamia that
> flourished from about 1500 BCE to 1360 BCE.

The above description of Mitanni is taken from Encyclopedia Britannica.
However, the following comment was made on ANE-2 regarding the description
by Encyclopedia Britannica.  The purpose is not to bring up this rather old 
and
relatively marginal comment but only to correct that original comment given 
the
related discussion on ANE-2.  While Mitanni was not an Indo-Aryan empire,
it was still not "ethnically" Semitic. So here is the quote:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ANE-2/message/4863
"I'm afraid the sentences quoted from Wikipedia and Britannica are old flotsam
from a period when Aryans were regarded as overlords and other people as
"subjects".  ... It is really an enigma how the old German idea of Aryan
"supremacy" in Mittani (and an Aryan origin of the Mittanian empire) has been
able to survive for so long."

Yitzhak Sapir