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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table
- From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: "B Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table
- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:46:51 -0800
Peter:
On 1/17/07, Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org> wrote:
... if the roots are actually randomly distributed. My(list repeated below)
reasoning is as follows (based on an argument I found at
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/62941.html): Suppose that there
are N verbs with the first root letter A. There are thus (N^2)/2 (half N
squared) pairs of such verbs. What is the probability that any such pair
is identical? This depends a little on which the second and third root
letters are, but as a rough approximation it is 1/23^2 (or 1/22^2 if we
count sin and shin together), as there are 23 (or 22) possibilities in
each position. And similarly for each of the other letter positions.
Thus the mean number of pairs which match is ((N^2)/2) / (23^2), or
(N^2) / 1058. While this formula needs slight adjustment for cases of
three or more homonyms, it should give a ball park figure.
In fact there seem to be about twice the number of homonyms expected by
this calculation - except for medial vav and final he and resh, which
may suggest that some special considerations apply here. Consider the
following, for each letter (counting sin and shin separately) and adding
across all three roots. This discrepancy is consistent with the effect
of the non-randomness of distribution of the other root letters. (Second
column: calculated estimate; third column: observed number)
...
--
Peter Kirk
E-mail: peter AT qaya.org
Blog: http://speakertruth.blogspot.com/
Website: http://www.qaya.org/
Taking those column of numbers, I added a third column showing the
multiple for each letter, from the expected to the observed.
) 10 28 2.8
B 20 46 2.3
G 6 12 2
D 12 24 2
H 51 68 1.333
H. 0 0
W 29 35 1.207
Z 4 19 4.75
X 29 55 1.897
+ 4 10 2.5
Y 8 13 1.625
K 8 17 2.125
L 36 67 1.861
M 18 40 2.222
N 26 41 1.577
S 6 18 3
( 26 56 2.154
P 19 35 1.842
C 10 33 3.3
Q 15 25 1.667
R 79 108 1.367
& 3 10 3.333
$ 23 30 1.304
T 5 11 2.2
Total 449 801
# 26 40 1.538
Notice that the shin has the second lowest multiple. The sin and shin
together have a multiple still on the low side of the average of 1.784
(taken from the total row).
Even though I disagree with the lexicographic method, the results seem
to imply even stronger than defining by action that the sin and shin
together were originally one letter. (Defining according to action
gives an observed frequency closer to the predicted numbers than to
the "observed" frequency from your received list.)
To repeat my original observation, I noticed that sin and shin
together are observed to have a lower frequency of homonyms than
expected, especially lower than expected if they were originally two
phonemes. That, along with other clues, caused me to raise the
question, were they originally one phoneme with one letter to
represent that one phoneme?
Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/14/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
K Randolph, 01/15/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Yitzhak Sapir, 01/16/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Peter Kirk, 01/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, K Randolph, 01/16/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Peter Kirk, 01/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
K Randolph, 01/18/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Peter Kirk, 01/18/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, K Randolph, 01/19/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Peter Kirk, 01/19/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Yitzhak Sapir, 01/20/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Peter Kirk, 01/21/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Yitzhak Sapir, 01/24/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
K Randolph, 01/18/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, K Randolph, 01/21/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Peter Kirk, 01/21/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Peter Kirk, 01/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/16/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
K Randolph, 01/15/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table,
K Randolph, 01/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Peter Kirk's homonym percentage table, Peter Kirk, 01/16/2007
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